> -----Original Message----- > From: Thomas Funk [mailto:t.f...@web.de] > Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 4:07 AM > To: Harry portobello; fvwm@fvwm.org > Subject: Re: FVWM: FAO: Thomas Adam - list attitudes and unveiling the > person behind email > > Hi Harry, > > as I red your email, my first impression was, to take up the cudgels > for Thomas
This was my first thought also. I've been using fvwm since 1995 (slackware install of linux from a dozen floppy disks). I've been lurking on this list since it started. I have an fvwm mail folder of helpful emails going back over seven years, and probably half of what I've saved are posts from Thomas Adam. > and will told you, that this posting hasn't belong on a public board. > But anyway, > you've done it, so I add one's two cents ... > > Yes, Thomas is sometimes abrasive, shortspoken and, if the other > doesn't rtfm > and ask his question the 26th time he becomes angry. But he answers > every > question, gives constructive feedback and is the most time friendly > with a > complete own british humor. > > He works most time alone on the forum, checks in about 80% of fixes and > code and, sorry, I red the fvwm list for ages, too, 90% of the answers > are ok Hear hear! This is exactly right. Thomas has been the major force behind recreating user found problems, coding fixes and creating working images for some time now. And why does he do it? Because he enjoys doing it. And he answers every email because he enjoys helping people. What may come off to some as "abrasive" is just an attempt to get people to think: "Why do you want such a feature? Give me some reasons of how this would be used..." "Why do you think this is a problem? Do some work to collect some debug output..." "What makes you think that I'll just accept any patch in any form for anything? There are steps that need to be followed..." Without these kinds of questions, the fvwm project would be in a shambles. Thank you Thomas Adam for all the fine work you have put into fvwm over the years. Frank > from Thomas. > > Btw, if you want know more about Thomas try google (thomas adam fvwm). > Then you'll find his page (http://www.xteddy.org/) where he describes > more > than other people would say about themselves ... > > Best Regards, > Thomas aka TF > > > > -- > Life is like a box of chocolates - never know what you're gonna get. > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: "Harry portobello" <harryportobe...@gmail.com> > Gesendet: Aug 31, 2011 1:17:47 AM > An: fvwm@fvwm.org > Betreff: FVWM: FAO: Thomas Adam - list attitudes and unveiling the > person behind email > > >Hi all, > > > >I've been reading the fvwm list for ages and recently subscribed > >because of the article I'm currently writing - so although I've not > >been on this list very long I feel as though I am no stranger to it; > >mail archives can be a great thing, even more since a lot of them are > >made public. :) > > > >A few people have privately said to me lately that although they think > >fvwm is a great program, they're not happy with the attitudes of the > >most active maintainer, Thomas Adam. I won't be naming names, that's > >not what's relevant here. But it's important to remember that words > >are all we have in an email. There's no body language or tone of voice > >to listen to. Sometimes the simplest of phrases might sound innocent > >in person but take on a different meaning entirely when written down. > > > >Some of this admittedly depends on how well the reader knows the > >person whose text they're reading; like anything if one reads > >something as cheeky it's because they know the person well enough to > >accept that's how they are. But that's not so often the case on > >faceless individuals who collaborate on a project together, where the > >only communication is email. > > > >Thomas, please give thought to how you phrase things because from what > >I'm hearing you're endangering fvwm, scaring people away from > >contributing. I hope that's not what you want - but it's the strong > >impression I am feeling from certain replies. It's really important > >that you stop and think about things because scaring people away just > >isn't good enough. > > > >Maybe things would be easier if we (as a fvwm community) knew more > >about you, for example. > > > >Harry > > > > > ___________________________________________________________ > Schon gehört? WEB.DE hat einen genialen Phishing-Filter in die > Toolbar eingebaut! http://produkte.web.de/go/toolbar
