Yeah but ... What would be even better would be to design the automation such
that it's scale free, at least a little bit. I'm thinking something like this:
https://advanced.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/advs.202409330
The simply term "automation" could imply VERY large machines, like 3D printers
stretched over acres of land, picking and manipulating the little things. Or it could
imply a collection of a few large machines, many meso machines, and lots of micro or pico
machines all orchestrated to metabolize old panels and regrow new ones. *Then* it would
look more sustainable to me.
On 7/11/25 7:53 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote:
Installation, tear down, recycling, and re-fabrication all need to be automated.
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A tech bro wet dream, that is. Maybe there's something wrong with me. But what
I see when looking at those pictures is something like one of those
post-apocalyptic movie scenes where a city is being retaken by the biosphere
... or maybe a hermit crab using a can as its shell.
It's easy to abstract away and think about the humans who manufacture and
repair those panel manifolds like so many molecules maintaining a cell or so
many glands growing a new shell or exoskeleton. But that analogy's pretty
fraught. And it's not merely the life cycles of the panels (and wind mills)
that pokes at me. I also wonder about the bioengineering of the various
ecosystems, including deserts, and how that will turn out.
None of that's an argument for not paving the earth with panels or continuing
to drain the fossil fuel battery. But it's just what I think when I look at
those pictures. It just feels so centrally planned ... so ... inorganic. I
can't help think about what it will look like within a lifetime of the kids
around me:
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2589004225005930
On 7/11/25 6:31 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote:
Every so often I need to post an Atlantic article, and that time has arrived
again.
https://www.theatlantic.com/photography/archive/2025/07/photos-china-solar-power-energy/683488/?gift=IwTom6kf_sPDx8WzuZ66aeDqXjixawasB22Cb-q9aVA&utm_source=copy-link&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=share
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