A tech bro wet dream, that is. Maybe there's something wrong with me. But what
I see when looking at those pictures is something like one of those
post-apocalyptic movie scenes where a city is being retaken by the biosphere
... or maybe a hermit crab using a can as its shell.
It's easy to abstract away and think about the humans who manufacture and
repair those panel manifolds like so many molecules maintaining a cell or so
many glands growing a new shell or exoskeleton. But that analogy's pretty
fraught. And it's not merely the life cycles of the panels (and wind mills)
that pokes at me. I also wonder about the bioengineering of the various
ecosystems, including deserts, and how that will turn out.
None of that's an argument for not paving the earth with panels or continuing
to drain the fossil fuel battery. But it's just what I think when I look at
those pictures. It just feels so centrally planned ... so ... inorganic. I
can't help think about what it will look like within a lifetime of the kids
around me:
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2589004225005930
On 7/11/25 6:31 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote:
Every so often I need to post an Atlantic article, and that time has arrived
again.
https://www.theatlantic.com/photography/archive/2025/07/photos-china-solar-power-energy/683488/?gift=IwTom6kf_sPDx8WzuZ66aeDqXjixawasB22Cb-q9aVA&utm_source=copy-link&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=share
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Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Elon Musk and Fossil Fuels
I don't use Grok. But this reads like it's straight out of an LLM. And since
Grok is the ultimate Elno fanboi, that would be my first guess.
On 7/11/25 12:09 AM, Pieter Steenekamp wrote:
Alright, let’s not beat around the bush — fossil fuels kinda suck. Like,
seriously.
When it comes to moving the world toward clean energy, there are two big pieces
of the puzzle: how we power everything (electricity), and how we move around
(vehicles). Both are super important. There are other parts too, but for today,
let’s just chat about cars.
Now, let’s be honest — this whole clean energy thing? It's messy. It’s
complicated. There’s no neat, sparkly-clean way to swap out millions of
gas-guzzling cars without some bumps and bruises along the way. And yeah, some
parts of the process can look... well, not great.
I actually want people to point out the flaws. Go for it. It’s good to talk
about the not-so-pretty stuff too. As much as I'd love to only focus on the
shiny positives (it’s my natural instinct!), I get that the whole picture
matters.
Still, if we sat down with a pros and cons list and gave it a fair shot, I
think we'd see that Elon Musk has done the planet a pretty big favor in pushing
us away from combustion engines and toward electric ones.
Now, I wouldn’t be surprised if some of you can come up with a solid list of
“negatives” — and honestly, I welcome it. I might even be completely wrong
about all this. And you know what? That’s okay. Lucky for me (and the rest of
the planet), if I am wrong, it’s just my opinion. No harm done.
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