Re: [FRIAM] Mysticism: still effing the ineffable?

[steve smith]

glen -

    >I would reduce your 7 types to just the 2: (1) and (3). I like
   Eric's idea that the term is mostly used as a placeholder, but it
   doesn't feel like a definition. It sounds more schematic

I appreciate both of these points... 5 (placeholder) definitely fits "schematic" over "defining"..

    >I'm confident such a reduction is peculiar to me (e.g. not really
    believing in intersubjectivity, experiential, linguistic, and

especially participatory would all be mediated by formality).

I think your reduction is probably widely held among this group up to a point.  I'm a hair-splitter by constitution so resist reductions or re-fray them at the first opportunity, but understand that others might not, and might not for very good reasons that I don't (always) share.

- steve

I find "intersubjective" particularly useful and "participatory" particularly compelling and agree that the more these are *formalized* the more useful/compelling they might become, but I don't see their subjectivity and contingency collapsing into the same kind of ontic/objectivity that Scientific Realism is grounded in?

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