the (media) talk of Biden's pre-emptive pardons this morning seemed to
(almost?) suggest that they must be accepted (before he leaves office?)
and we've heard that Gen Milley publicly accepted his (informally) while
others (Kinzinger?) pre-emptively declined such? I think the issuance
of the pardon is key, and as implied by DaveW's interpretation of
"accepting" and Supreme Court Decisions that "no comment" is the best
strategy?
On 1/20/25 12:37 PM, Prof David West wrote:
Re preemptive pardons:
It is unclear if one must accept a pardon for it to be valid (Supreme
Court decision on a commuted sentence); but it is clear (earlier
Supreme Court decision) that */accepting a pardon is an admission of
guilt./*
A number of 1-6 convicts plan to refuse pardons and fight the
convicions via the normal appellate process precisely for this reason.
davew
On Mon, Jan 20, 2025, at 1:20 PM, steve smith wrote:
> Glen sed:
>> Large deposits of hydrocarbons: Yeah, it kinda looks like a waste to
>> hoard all that stuff. But if you think of it like a battery (or a
>> stock in stocks and flows), some tasks do seem to require a large
>> battery, maybe to get over some hump with a steep energy curve. The
>> question is who uses it and for what? If we take Pieter's optimism
>> seriously, maybe our blowing through the fossil fuel battery does end
>> up getting us over some hump. E.g. we resolve the Meaning Crisis and
>> come to some high order conception of computation? Or a metaphysics
>> that closely matches physics? Or if you believe in a life/biosphere
>> diaspora to the solar system. But it's touch and go whether we'll
>> collapse (gracefully or catastrophically) or explode into some new
>> domain that was only reachable by draining the battery.
>
> I think it was a Neal Stephenson fiction which suggested that the Suez
> Canal was built by steam-shovels (drag-link earth movers?) fueled by a
> huge supply of mummies wrapped in cloth and soaked in crude oil for
> preservation? Not as dense as coal, but convenient? Fits right into
> my sparring with DaveW on morbid ways to dispose of human remains?
>
> I don't know what the Suez Canal provides lowered friction for, but
I'm
> guessing it is significantly moving fossil-fuels (mostly liquid?
mostly
> refined?)...
>
>>
>> I was avoiding the news for a month or so after the election. But now
>> my attitude is that we need a clown like Trump to lay bare our
>> oligarchy. The oligarchy thrives under Bidens and Obamas just as much
>> as under Putin or Trump. It's just that the pig has some lipstick on
>> it under the Obamas and Bidens. It think we'll begin to suss out some
>> of the differences between the US and, say, Russia or Hungary as we
>> slide a few notches in that direction. The trick is to be
>> disinterested without becoming disaffected.
>
> See my maunderings on bistable, metastable, fascism, etc. Are fascism
> and oligarchy distinct lobes in a metastable system? I do think that
> when Musk threw down for Trump and the other near-Trillionaire
tech-bros
> joined him, our trajectory went more toward the oligarchic style of
fascism?
>
> I'm not watching the inaugural events but did enjoy being "present" to
> hear of the Biden pre-emptive pardons... I'm guessing there are more
> than a few other "easter eggs" distributed throughout the day? Any
> chance someone will give Trump a tour of the Capitol with special
> attention to the places his "patriots" smeared feces? Probably not.
>
> Interesting times...
>
>
>
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