Glen -

I've not registered my work-life balance on the 5/7 day workweek for decades (2008?) but fully respect that others do.  In fact, when I was in my LANL day-job, the bulk of my speculative energies were shifted *to* the weekends, not away from them.   As a self-employed person with a conventionally employed partner, it makes sense to me that you might well lock in to "unplugging on the weekend".

I think the metronome that is implied by 7 day cycles is a fairly good "annealing schedule"?   I used to track moon phase (very conveniently broken into 4 7 day periods) more closely than I do now.   I live very close to the LANL-commute highway but in winter, I hardly notice the traffic...

I do think that model-free governance is a desirable basin of attraction (oops, I'm meta-modeling governance as a dynamical system?)  and I think it starts with model-free modeling?  Does this deny the "Anticipatory" in Rosen's Anticipatory Systems?

Does today's inauguration mark a saddle point in US governance? Does the "deep state" present too much inertia (or friction) to actually fall into a whole new basin of attraction?   Is this just another tumble through the phase space of a heteroclinic system? Is the "traditional" two-party system a temporary bistable mode in a metastable system.

I think the move to fascism (closely coupled capitalistic industrial and political systems?) suggests we might be about to escape the bistability in place since roughly 1828?  Or maybe the forcing effects of AI/tech acceleration will overwhelm the dynamics of the traditional EconoPolitics?

- Steve

On 1/20/25 9:07 AM, glen wrote:
It seems obvious that y'all don't "unplug" on the weekends. Do I have an antiquated conception of a healthy work-life balance? Anyway, the idea that natural subsystems don't consume more than they give back is just wrong ... maybe so ill-formed it's not even wrong. There's some hint of the naturalness fallacy. There's some over-simplified model of consumption and recycling. Etc. In every system (natural or not, whatever "not natural" might mean), each ... uh ... "species" will take whatever it can get, gorge itself to become fat and lazy, reproduce until all they can see to the horizon are their babies. Etc. What stops this from happening is some other species (or collection of species).

And, for sure, animals can be complex enough such that what stops it from happening sometimes are intra-individual patterns of self-destruction (maybe e.g. autoimmune disorders). We could resort to physics and talk about the interstitial spaces between species (at all scales) is entropy; you can fill the space up with species like some space-filling curve. But we don't need all that rigor. We can simply say there's always some infinitesimal interstitial space that isn't filled ... if only temporarily as species die and get replaced. If there is something we might call "natural", it is that space-filling impetus; the generative principle that all models are always wrong.

Sure, humans (and other large apes) might be a bit different in the sense that our generality/universality allows for *more* intra-individual, self-destructive tendencies. But we haven't yet seen that play out. Up to now, our generality has allowed us to don and doff overly-simplified models of the world that are just complex enough to work, but not complex enough to be True. More complex, but still overly simple, models try to account for "externalities", the "consuming and giving back" y'all are referring to. But the map is not the territory. Models are, by definition, not going to give back what they consume.

What we need is model-free governance.

On 1/19/25 9:47 AM, steve smith wrote:

The idea that "natural ecosystems do not consume more than they give back" is an example, however, of my maunderings on the "TANNSTAFFL" paradox.  Circular/toroidal economies do seem to be less wasteful (in some sense) but Life exists situated in gradients and while it's signature trick is to export entropy from it's immediate context, it *exports* it, not *avoids* it? It seems as if this is all about defining "systems boundaries" which of course may be a contradiction in terms (or a tautology?).

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