yes, exactly, I agree completely. We really don't want to put all that carbon
back into the atmosphere. Earth would become inhabitable.In what part of
Australia do you live? Are there any Koalas or Kangaroos nearby? We have some
smaller Kangaroos here in the zoo in Berlin, but no Koalas. I have read Koalas
are especially threatened by wildfires and climate
changehttps://www.sydney.edu.au/news-opinion/news/2018/08/29/drought-affected-habitats-endanger-koalas.htmlAustralia
helped Darwin to develop his theory of evolution by the way, together with the
baobab trees from Cape Verde and the finches from Galapagos
Islands.https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/australia-put-evolution-darwins-mind-180953651/-J.
-------- Original message --------From: Russell Standish
<[email protected]> Date: 1/17/25 7:30 AM (GMT+01:00) To: The Friday
Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[email protected]> Subject: Re:
[FRIAM] I've been thinking My own thinking on this, from at least 1980s, is
that we're going toconsume all known reserves of petroleum, but that we better
leave themajority of coal in the ground. When I last looked at it, there
wassomething like 200 years of known coal reserves at current rates ofuse. This
was particularly influenced by the discovery about 30 yearsago of the great
oxidation event, about 2 billion years ago. Prior tothat time, the planet's
atmosphere was a mix of nitrogen and carbondioxide with very little oxygen,
much like Mars's or Venus'satmosphere is today, and the panet was ruled by
anaerobicarcheobacteria. Then some pesky microbe (cynanobacterium)
discoveredphotosynthesis, and poisoned the atmosphere with oxygen, causing
amass extinction of previous life forms. It was the environmentalcatastrophe
dwarfing all others, including what we humans are doing.All that carbon that
was in the atmosphere went somewhere - intofossil fuels, into carbonates
(thanks to molluscs), and hopefullysubducted into the mantle out of reach of
fossil fuel companies. Wereally don't want to put all that carbon back into the
atmosphere. Thesun is a lot hotter now than it was 2 billion years ago. Life
would bevery uncomfortable if we went back the Archean atmospheric state.Which
is why it dismays me when our government, which is the moreenvironmentally
friendly of our two major parties, is still approvingnew coal mines!On Fri, Jan
17, 2025 at 05:46:14AM +0200, Pieter Steenekamp wrote:> Summary:> I have a
nuanced view on fossil fuels, recognizing both their benefits and> drawbacks.>
> Pros:> They provide affordable energy, which is essential for maintaining our
current> industrial society.> > Cons:> Fossil fuels are environmentally
harmful, contributing to pollution and CO2> emissions, which are linked to
global warming and climate change.> > However, I believe the negative aspects
are often exaggerated by mainstream> media. The transition to cleaner energy
sources can be managed over the next> few decades, potentially before
significant damage from fossil fuels occurs or> they are depleted.> >
Development of My Thinking:> > During the 1990s and early 2000s, I initially
accepted the prevailing narrative> that fossil fuels were inherently harmful,
particularly influenced by the> "hockey stick" graph by Michael Mann,
suggesting an alarming rise in global> temperatures due to CO2.> > The turning
point for me was the "Climategate" scandal around 2010, where> emails from the
University of East Anglia were leaked, revealing how some> climate scientists
might have manipulated data or suppressed dissenting views> to support alarmist
climate change predictions. This incident led me to delve> deeper into the
subject, although I admit my current knowledge might not be> up-to-date as I've
since shifted focus to other areas.> > Here are two key areas of research that
significantly shaped my views:> > Climate Sensitivity: This term refers to how
much the earth's temperature> increases with a doubling of CO2 in the
atmosphere. I found that many climate> models were based on numerous
assumptions, which made their predictions> questionable. Observational data,
however, suggested that climate sensitivity> might be within safer limits than
predicted.> Extreme Weather Events: There's a theoretical link between
increased CO2 levels> and more frequent or intense weather events. However, the
actual data on> weather events do not support the alarmist predictions made by
some models. For> instance, attributing the Los Angeles wildfires directly to
fossil fuel use, as> done by Michael Mann, seemed to me an overreach given the
known facts.> > Rephrase for Clarity:> I've come to view fossil fuels with a
balanced perspective, acknowledging their> role in providing cost-effective
energy which underpins our modern lifestyle,> while also recognizing their
environmental downsides. My skepticism was fueled> by events like Climategate,
prompting me to question the alarmist narratives.> Research on actual climate
sensitivity and weather patterns suggests that the> situation might not be as
dire as some predict, giving us a reasonable window> to transition to cleaner
energy sources without causing catastrophic damage to> the environment.> >
Note: My memory might blur some details, and new research could potentially>
alter my current understanding. However, the core of my critique and>
observations remains intact. > > On Fri, 17 Jan 2025 at 00:10, Jochen Fromm
<[email protected]> wrote:> > Good to hear an optimistic view. Maybe I
have read too many apocalyptic> books after the pandemic :) During Covid we
wondered if it will be a> pandemic which leads to a post pandemic world as
in "The Dog Stars" from> Peter Heller or in "Earth Abides" from George R.
Stewart. Luckily it was> not the case, partially because of the ingenuity
of our scientists who> developed a vaccine.> > > During the Cold War
people were frightened of a nuclear war which would end> in a apocalyptic
world described in "On the Beach" by Nevil Shute or "Z for> Zachariah" from
Robert C. O'Brien. Depressing books by the way. So far this> also has not
happened.> > > I have the feeling this time it is different, because our
industrial> societies and their permanent growth are built on the
extraction of cheap> fossil fuels. The amount of fossil fuels is limited,
no other planet has> them, and by burning them at ever growing rates we do
not only cause> climate change, we have consumed in merely a decade what
nature on Earth> has produced in hundred million years. We are reaching and
surpassing peak> oil. Even the generation of our fertilizers depends on
fossil fuels. Our> politicians are too blind to see what is waiting for us,
and are unable and> unwilling to change the capitalistic system which
demands more growth every> year. More growth means more climate change.
This is the reason why I> believe it will get worse, much worse than the
wildfires in L.A. Including> more wildfires all over the world, in
California, New Mexico, Southern> Europe and Australia, until we get a
largely uninhabitable Earth, as David> Wallace-Wells wrote in his book.
Nobody wants to live in a Mad Max desert> hellscape.> > > -J.> >
> > -------- Original message --------> From: Russell Standish
<[email protected]>> Date: 1/16/25 2:23 AM (GMT+01:00)> To: The
Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[email protected]>>
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] I've been thinking> > In my book Theory of Nothing, I
predict a population collapse this> century (with better than even odds).
This was with nothing more than> anthropic reasoning.> > A major
population decline is baked in through the demographic> transition anyway.>
> The question is can our civilisation survive this? I'm optimistic it>
can, but it's going to take every ounce of ingenuity on our parts. My>
son's peer group is particularly smart and creative, so maybe that>
generates my optimism, perhaps I wouldn't be so optimisitic if living>
amongst lower socio-economic groups.> > Cheers> > On Wed, Jan 15, 2025
at 11:39:15PM +0100, Jochen Fromm wrote:> > Who says I am optimistic? Your
remark about data centers for LLMs,> Bitcoins and> > other stuff like
TikTok videos which increase global warming is accurate.> >> > I
believe we are heading towards a collapse (!) of civilization (!!) in> 10
or> > 20 years, not only because of climate change, but because our
resources> on the> > planet are depleted and because exponential growth
on a finite planet is> not> > possible.> >
https://www.politybooks.com/bookdetail?book_slug=> >
how-everything-can-collapse-a-manual-for-our-times--9781509541386> >> >
The models have predicted long ago that a collapse will start now, in the>
> middle between 2000 and 2050, and if I look at the incoming Trump> >
administration and the L.A. wildfires I can not get rid of the impression>
that> > it has already begun> >
http://bit-player.org/2012/world3-the-public-beta> >> > -J.> >>
>> > -------- Original message --------> > From: Prof David West
<[email protected]>> > Date: 1/14/25 6:03 PM (GMT+01:00)> > To:
[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [FRIAM] I've been thinking> >> >
Two small things:> >> > glen noted: Every single "conversation" you
have with ChatGPT or Grok> *creates*> > the inequality we bemoan. It's
fine to do it. Let them eat cake. But do> it with> > self-awareness,
knowing you're part of the problem.> >> > Every conversation you have
exacerbates global warming, shifts the have/> have> > not issue to
energy rather than cash, and will lead, fairly soon, to the> demise> >
of many a business building and relying on AI apps when the providers>
start> > charging for access at a level that recoups the energy costs
associated> with> > those AIs.> >> > I take a more charitable
view to writing, especially fiction, and find> value in> > the ideas
that can be sparked by a good SciFi novel like Neal> Stephenson's> >
Diamond Age. A world where stuff is essentially 'free' because of>
nano-tech,> > but social stratification persists and new interesting
problems arise.> Not an> > argument against Jochen's technological
optimism, but a caution that the> issues> > are more complicated than
many assume.> >> > davew> >> >> > On Tue, Jan 14, 2025, at
9:29 AM, glen wrote:> > > I don't see many (any?) rich people actually
trying to democratize> > > anything. Yes, they're happy to sell you a
narrative that can pacify> > > you and inure you to all the people right
next door that die or live in> > > sickness while they sell you that
narrative. Maybe, just maybe, their> > > vision might come true *if* the
poor and stupid people die off quickly> > > enough. If they stop having
(poor and stupid) babies. Etc. Then what's> > > left are just the rich
people.> > >> > > But there are arguments that the only reason they're
rich is because> > > they have poor and stupid people to squeeze little
bits of money out> > > of... economies of scale. Witness:> > >
https://pnhp.org/news/> >>
how-unitedhealth-harnesses-its-physician-empire-to-squeeze-profits-out-of-patients>
> /> > > So even if Musk had his way and all the poor stupid people
just went> > > away, those at the very top would (need to) find a way to
suck money> > > out of the marginally rich people. The category of
poor&stupid will> > > continually be fed new members from the middle as the
top finds ways to> > > exploit them.> > >> > > Now, you might argue
that the whole system needs revolution. But> > > despite what the Musks and
Altmans of the world tell you, the> > > revolution won't come from them. AI
facilitated and sold to you by the> > > rich people like Altman will not
revolutionize anything. It'll merely> > > serve to conservatively maintain
the power base that already exists [⛧]> > >> > > If there's a
revolution, it'll come from the poor&stupid, because> > > despite what
people like Musk think, the poor&stupid aren't actually> > > stupid, even
if they're poor.> > >> > > [⛧] Anecdote: There's pressure amongst my
colleagues to rely on OpenAI> > > LLMs because they are "state of the art",
rather than run the same> > > workflows through partially or fully open
models. And the overwhelming> > > majority of these people think they're
for democratizing knowledge and> > > methods. They vote for Democrats. They
call themselves scientists. Etc.> > > But they've bought the beautiful
narrative. The very use of LLMs relies> > > on the concentrated power of
Nvidia, Amazon, Google, Microsoft, and> > > Meta's compute engines, over
and above proprietary codes and weights.> > > This isn't science. And it
isn't democratization. It's hapless liberals> > > believing the narrative
of the super rich. Every single "conversation"> > > you have with ChatGPT
or Grok *creates* the inequality we bemoan. It's> > > fine to do it. Let
them eat cake. But do it with self-awareness,> > > knowing you're part of
the problem.> > >> > > On 1/14/25 02:10, Pieter Steenekamp wrote:>
> >> In the coming decade, artificial intelligence (AI) is poised to>
transform> > human societies in profound ways, a view widely shared among
many.> However, I> > propose a contrarian perspective on how these
changes might unfold. While> > speculation is rife, it's worth considering
a future shaped by the> radical> > advancements in AI and technology.>
> >>> > >> Imagine a world where the marginal cost of goods and
services> diminishes to> > nearly zero due to an abundance of
intelligence and energy. This scenario> isn't> > far-fetched; it echoes
the visions of thinkers like Peter Diamandis, who> > discusses the
potential for an era of abundance due to exponential> > technological
growth. In his book "Abundance: The Future Is Better Than> You> >
Think," Diamandis argues that technology could lead to a world where>
scarcity> > is a thing of the past.> > >>> > >> If this vision
holds true, the current paradigm where large> corporations or> > "BIG
MONEY" dictate personal freedoms might dissolve. The idea here is> not
just> > the democratization of wealth but the very obsolescence of
traditional> monetary> > power structures. As Elon Musk has implied in
various public discussions,> with> > AI and automation, wealth could
become so widespread that the concept of> "rich"> > might need
redefining.> > >>> > >> This shift could mean that control over one's
free will, currently> > influenced by economic constraints, would be
significantly less> pronounced.> > Instead of a few holding power,
everyone could potentially access the> tools and> > resources necessary
for personal and collective prosperity.> > >>> > >> However, this
utopian vision is not without its critics. Economist> Thomas> >
Piketty, for instance, warns in "Capital in the Twenty-First Century">
about the> > potential for increased inequality if wealth distribution
isn't managed> > carefully alongside technological progress. Thus, while
the possibility> of a> > world without "BIG MONEY" is intriguing, it
also beckons a careful> > consideration of how we manage the transition to
ensure equitable> benefits from> > AI's advancements.> > >>> >
>> In conclusion, while the future with AI might not align with common> >
predictions, the potential for a society where everyone is 'rich' in>
resources> > and opportunities is a compelling narrative to explore
further, ensuring> we> > don't just dream of utopia but also plan for
its realization.> > >>> > >> On Tue, 14 Jan 2025 at 10:51, Jochen Fromm
<[email protected]> <mailto:> > [email protected]>> wrote:> > >>>
> >> Maybe the interesting question is not how free will be can emerge>
> through language and thinking, but how we can keep it.> > >>> >
>>> > >> Free will is the treasure island that everybody wants to own.
It> is the> > treasure that everybody wants to take away. Religious
groups want to> manipulate> > our free will to do whatever they preach.
Parties want to manipulate our> free> > will to vote for them.
Companies want to manipulate our free will to buy> their> > products.>
> >>> > >>> > >> There is a whole 100 year old industry which
has evolved to> manipulate> > our free will: since Edward Bernays wrote
his book about propaganda and> PR in> > 1928, the emerging
PR/advertising/marketing industry tries to influence> our> > decisions
in order to buy more stuff (which we do not need).> > >>> > >>> >
>> This is similar to the hard problem of consciousness. There is a>
whole> > 100 year industry which has evolved to solve the hardproblem of>
consciousness:> > the film industry and all forms of show business which
earn money by> showing us> > what it is like to be someone.> > >>>
> >>> > >> Interesting isn't it? The big problems of philosophy have
led to> big> > industries.> > >>> > >>> > >> -J.> >
>>> > >>> > >>> > >> -------- Original message --------> >
>> From: Marcus Daniels <[email protected] <mailto:>
[email protected]> > >>> > >> Date: 1/14/25 6:31 AM (GMT+01:00)>
> >> To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <> >
[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>> > >> Subject: Re:
[FRIAM] I've been thinking> > >>> > >> Natural language seems to be
better at facilitating delegation and> > iteration. Natural language is
contradictory and underspecified, so it> has a> > way of facilitating
groups of people, er, agents, doing stuff, even if> they> > don’t know
or care what they are talking about. It may have even be> >
evolutionarily important for cooperation. I guess that’s a quaint> notion
in> > the age of MAGA. Even Trump is multitudes on any given day..> >
>>> > >> *From: *Friam <[email protected] <mailto:> >
[email protected]>> on behalf of glen <[email protected]>
<mailto:> > [email protected]>>> > >> *Date: *Monday, January
13, 2025 at 4:52 PM> > >> *To: *[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]> <> [email protected]> >
<mailto:[email protected]>>> > >> *Subject: *Re: [FRIAM] I've been
thinking> > >>> > >> This post may interest y'all:> > >>> >
>> The Teaching of Writing in the AI Era> > >>
https://dailynous.com/2025/01/09/teaching-writing-in-the-ai-era/> <https:>
> //dailynous.com/2025/01/09/teaching-writing-in-the-ai-era/>> > >>>
> >> My response to this question about teaching writing is to ask why>
one is> > writing. If writing/reading is for *reasoning*, then the LLMs
have taught> us (I> > think) that ordinary language is just not good
for that. Maybe it's good> for> > acting in the world because we use
common terms like "food" or "fire".> But for> > inference, formal
languages are way better than informal ones. So who> cares if> > a
student can write prose for reasoning? That's a category error we old/> >
obsolete people make. Kids interested in reasoning should learn logic/>
math and> > forget writing.> > >>> > >> But of course some
people enjoy reading door stop tomes. It's like> binge> > watching some
stupid sitcom. They read just to empty their mind -> anti-reason.> >
And as long as we have LLMs, we don't need chum writers like that> anymore.
Just> > have ChatGPT write you a novel on demand. So no need to teach
students to> write> > that sort of word-salad nonsense.> > >>>
> >> On 1/13/25 13:28, Jochen Fromm wrote:> > >> > Good summary.
Dennett's books are popular because he has done> > ordinary-language
philosophy like his adviser Ryle, as he writes in his> chapter> > about
his time in Oxford. His main trick is to do sharp attacks on> theories>
> which he has identified as false.> > >> >> > >> >> > >>
> His "consciousness explained" book for example does not really>
explain> > it. Like his mentor Gilbert Ryle he says what it is not. Ryle
says there> is no> > ghost in the machine, Dennett argues there is no
central self, no> observer in> > the Cartesian theater.> > >>
>> > >> >> > >> > His "freedom evolves" book is similar. He
does not really> explain how> > a free will can emerge, he explains
what it is not: it is not action> under> > duress. Persons who have
free will are not forced to act like they do.> > >> >> > >> > I
guess Dennett's ordinary-language philosophy can also be found> here> >
at FRIAM occasionally - one aspect I like about the group.> > >> >>
> >> >> > >> > -J.> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >>
> >> > -------- Original message --------> > >> > From: Pieter
Steenekamp <[email protected] <mailto:> >
[email protected]>>> > >> > Date: 1/13/25 9:02 AM (GMT+01:00)>
> >> > To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <> >
[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>> > >> > Subject: Re:
[FRIAM] I've been thinking> > >> >> > >> > I've always been
drawn to the sharp mind of Daniel Dennett, and> the> > idea of diving
into his autobiography feels like meeting an old friend> for the> >
first time. As I've been on a bit of a biography kick lately, adding>
Dennett's> > personal journey to my reading list just feels right.> >
>> >> > >> > I love the communal aspect of our local library, and
I'm> planning to> > see if they can snag Dennett's autobiography for
me. It's probably not on> their> > shelves, but the magic of
inter-library loans could come through for me.> > There's something special
about the anticipation of waiting for a book> you're> > eager to read.>
> >> >> > >> > To brush up on Dennett's fascinating ideas, I
asked Grok to give> me> > the lowdown on his thoughts about
consciousness, free will, religion, and> > evolution. Here's what I
learned. (My Prompt was "please give me a> > comprehensive view on daniel
dennitt's views on consciousness, free will,> > religion and evolution"):>
> >> >> > >> > Daniel Dennett, a prominent philosopher,
cognitive scientist,> and> > writer, has made significant contributions
to discussions on> consciousness,> > free will, religion, and
evolution. Here's a comprehensive overview of> his> > views on each of
these topics:> > >> >> > >> > Consciousness> > >> >
Heterophenomenology: Dennett advocates for an approach he calls> >
"heterophenomenology," where one takes the subject's reports of their> >
consciousness at face value but then interprets these reports from a> >
third-person perspective. This method aims to be scientific and objective>
about> > subjective experiences.> > >> > Multiple Drafts Model: In
his book "Consciousness Explained,"> Dennett> > proposes the "multiple
drafts" model of consciousness, where> consciousness is> > not a
single, central stream but rather the result of numerous parallel> >
processes in the brain. There is no single place where consciousness>
happens;> > instead, different parts of the brain produce different
"drafts" of> what's> > going on, and we experience consciousness as
these drafts are distributed> and> > revised.> > >> >
Illusionism: Dennett is often classified as an illusionist about> >
consciousness, arguing that what we think of as phenomenal consciousness>
(the> > subjective, qualitative aspect of experience) is an illusion or,
more> > precisely, a construct of cognitive processes. He believes that the
hard> > problem of consciousness is a pseudo-problem because once we
understand> the> > brain's workings, we'll see there's nothing left to
explain.> > >> >> > >> > Free Will> > >> >
Compatibilism: Dennett supports a form of compatibilism, where> free> >
will can coexist with determinism. He argues that while our actions might>
be> > determined by prior states of the universe, we can still be morally>
responsible> > for them if our decisions are based on our desires,
character, and> rational> > deliberation.> > >> > "Freedom
Evolves": In his book "Freedom Evolves," he suggests> that> > free will
has evolved through natural selection, where organisms develop> the> >
ability to respond flexibly to their environments. Free will, for> Dennett,
is> > about the ability to act according to one's own reasons and
motivations,> not> > about transcending causality.> > >> >>
> >> > Religion> > >> > The Brights Movement: Dennett, along with
Richard Dawkins and> others,> > has been associated with the "Brights"
movement, an attempt to reframe> atheists> > and agnostics with a
positive term.> > >> > Memes and Religion: He views religion through
the lens of> memetics, a> > theory where cultural ideas (memes)
propagate and evolve similarly to> genes. In> > "Breaking the Spell,"
he argues that religion should be studied> scientifically,> >
questioning why it persists and how it affects human behavior.> > >> >
Critical of Faith: Dennett is critical of religion's role in> society,>
> often highlighting what he sees as irrational beliefs or the potential>
harm> > they can cause. He advocates for a secular society based on reason
and> science,> > though he does not discount the social benefits some
religious practices> might> > offer.> > >> >> > >> >
Evolution> > >> > Darwin's Dangerous Idea: His book by this name
explores the> > implications of Darwin's theory of evolution by natural
selection, which> he> > describes as a "universal acid" that eats
through just about every> traditional> > concept, from biology to
philosophy.> > >> > Algorithimic View: Dennett emphasizes an
algorithmic view of> life> > where evolution is seen as an algorithmic
process - blind, automatic, and> > devoid of foresight or design.> > >>
> Critique of Intelligent Design: He has been a vocal critic of> >
intelligent design, arguing that it's not only scientifically unfounded>
but> > also philosophically problematic, as it often appeals to a 'god of
the> gaps'> > for explanations.> > >> >> > >> >
Dennett's work is characterized by its interdisciplinary> approach,> >
combining insights from biology, philosophy, computer science, and>
cognitive> > science to address complex questions about human nature and
existence.> His> > views often provoke debate, particularly because of
his willingness to> > challenge traditional or intuitive understandings of
these topics.> > >> >> > >> > On Sun, 12 Jan 2025 at 21:37,
Jochen Fromm <[email protected]> > <mailto:[email protected]>
<mailto:[email protected] <mailto:> > [email protected]>>> wrote:> >
>> >> > >> > The library finally has notified me that Daniel
Dennett's> > autobiography "I've been thinking" is ready to borrow. So I
went to the> library> > and got it. As expected an interesting book. He
writes about his time in> Oxford> > and his mentor Gilbert Ryle, his
approach to philosophy and his little> life> > hacks.> > >> >>
> >> >> > >> > He explains for example how he used to stay
awake in boring> talks:> > he waits until all characters of the
alphabet subsequently appear in the> talk> > and then writes down the
word. First he waits for a word containing A,> then for> > a word
containing B, etc. If he reaches Z he starts again at A. He says> J, Q>
> und Z would be rare...> > >> >> > >> >> > >> > As
you know Daniel has written a number of fascinating> books.> >
Dennett's law of philosophy for me is that for every big, fundamental>
question> > in philosophy there is at least one Daniel Dennett book:> >
>> >> > >> >> > >> > + "Consciousnes Explained" (1991)
about consciousness> > >> >> > >> > + "Darwin's Dangerous
Idea" (1995) about evolution> > >> >> > >> > + "Freedom
Evolves" (2003) about free will> > >> >> > >> > + "Breaking
the spell" (2006) about religion> > >> >> > >> >> > >>
> We have discussed all four questions here in FRIAM as well:> >
consciousness, evolution, free will and religion. The conclusions I came>
too> > (after many discussions here and countless visits to the library)
are:> > >> >> > >> >> > >> > + For subjective
consciousness humans have built tools to> solve> > the "what it is like
to be" question of subjective consciousness. The> tools are> > simply
the cinemas and movie theaters which show the stuff that Hollywood> >
produces. Recently the GoPro cameras which show what it is like to be a>
hero> > fulfill a similar purpose> > >> >> > >> >> > >>
> + Regarding the spell of religion we have built tools too.> >
Churches, mosques, synagogues and temples are places where the magic of> >
religion is used to form groups out of loosely coupled individuals. And>
the> > magic turns out to be gene expression, as I tried to explain in the
book> from 5> > years ago> > >> >> > >> >> > >>
> + For the question of free will we have invented tools too.> Mainly>
> language and "to be or not to be" thinking of course, but as trivial as>
it may> > sound, ordinary things such as notes and calendars help us to
remember> what we> > want to do, thereby guiding our decision making>
> >> >> > >> >> > >> > I have the feeling that the
solutions to the biggest and> most> > elusive questions can be found in
the most ordinary common things, hiding> in> > plain sight.Would you
come to different conclusions in one of big> questions> > after our
discussions here?> > >> >> > > --> > > ¡sıɹƎ ןıɐH ⊥ ɐןןǝdoɹ ǝ
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