Just for reference, the costs in India for fibre and 5G mobile data (which many people use to hotspot)
1. Fibre 30 Mbps up/down (unlimited) along with a landline phone with unlimited calling US$ 4.50 per month (no bundles) 2. Fibre 300 Mbps .. US$ 16 per month (bundled with free Amazon Prime, netflix, Disney etc.. and 800+ TV channels) 3. Fibre 1 Gbps ... US$ 90 per month (bundled with free Amazon Prime, netflix, Disney etc.. and 800+ TV channels) Hardly ever breaks down and service is very quick 1. Mobile connection, unlimited calling within India and approx. 75 GB/month of 4G data (unlimited 5G data) US$ 4.50 2. Family Pack of 4 mobile connections unlimited calling within India, data same as above for each .. US$8 30 Mbps fibre works just fine for me, and thanks to the pirate sites I get all their bundles for free. Sarbajit Roy On Fri, Sep 13, 2024 at 7:20 AM Gary Schiltz <g...@naturesvisualarts.com> wrote: > I sometimes get 300 Mbps on the older Starlink hardware supported here in > Ecuador. With the newer hardware they supply in the USA it would probably > approach 500. Even at $120 it sounds reasonable to me. Down here they don’t > seem to mind wiring a few houses together. I don’t know about up there. > > On Thu, Sep 12, 2024 at 4:31 PM steve smith <sasm...@swcp.com> wrote: > >> I'm on NMSurf.com for most of a decade now, after the grant-funded San I >> wireless system ground to a halt after the funding went away... before >> that I enjoyed a whole year of HughesNet satellight which was painfully >> asymmetric and heavily latent. Before that dialup over the most poorly >> maintained copper in the world/country/state/county (probably just the >> latter). I think I'm paying for the lowest tier of 100Mbps and but I >> don't get any better service than I did when I was paying (the same price >> or a little more) for 25Mbps and similarly for 10Mbps before that. >> >> The hardest thing I ask of my ISP is one or maybe two simultaneous video >> streams (Netflix/Prime/Youtube, ???) and that was something even the 10Mbps >> (usually) served well enough. >> >> I was pulling signal from 23 miles away Line of Sight from the top of Big >> Tesuque for the longest time and it never failed, even in the harshest >> snow/rainstorms... a-mazing. They relit the San lldefonso tower just >> about 1/2 mile from me and I get (best I can tell) the very same service, >> but it must be a lot easier/cheaper for them to provide such. My downtime >> on top of the mountain was same or better, probably because they were >> probably serving a lot more people from that location and were a lot more >> on top of keeping the UPS and backup generators and multiple backhauls up >> and running 24/7 A few bad storms had them out of service for the long >> part of a day. I get the same frequency/duration of outages (or higher) >> from my local "Tewa Tower" source which is probably a combination of >> problems with right-of-way for service on-pueblo and the small(er) number >> of clients (hundreds at most?) served from there. >> >> I considered Starlink a few years ago as a way to be redundant with my >> neighbors who variously do use some version of Comcast and Qwest copper >> lines. There was a moment when I though I could talk them into letting me >> mesh all 4 houses together with 4 backhauls (comcast, qwest, microwave ala >> NMSurf, Starlink) but they were not really up for being that chummy or >> dependent on me/one-another I think? >> >> What really stopped me was fine print in Musk's EULA which suggested that >> by accepting his service I was implicitely endorsing the idea that whomever >> landed on Mars first got to commercialize it. I wish I could find that >> fine print again or some reference to it, maybe I made it up? Oh, yeh, >> then he said "we will coup anyone we want"... buh! >> >> >> - Steve >> On 9/12/24 8:30 AM, Gary Schiltz wrote: >> >> It depends on what's on the other end of your fiber connection :-) Here >> in land that tech forgot, getting more than a few tens of megabits feels >> luxurious. One carrier has fiber optic passing over my property, and they >> offered to tap into it and give me 20 megabits for the low low price of >> $100 a month. Starlink's 300 megabits for $45 a month is heaven on earth. >> Isn't Santa Fe still sort of part of the third world? >> >> On Thu, Sep 12, 2024 at 9:06 AM Marcus Daniels <mar...@snoutfarm.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Neat trick, but no substitute for fiber. 🙂 >>> >>> https://www.speedtest.net/result/c/d227591a-534e-4811-a3e9-1b055d44914d >>> ------------------------------ >>> *From:* Friam <friam-boun...@redfish.com> on behalf of Gary Schiltz < >>> g...@naturesvisualarts.com> >>> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 11, 2024 8:50 PM >>> *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group < >>> friam@redfish.com> >>> *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] Starlink >>> >>> I have Starlink here in Ecuador and am very happy with it. But here it >>> is only $45 a month and $120 there. >>> >>> On Wed, Sep 11, 2024 at 10:21 PM Gillian Densmore < >>> gil.densm...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> What are folks's thoughts on this? for the atrocious choices of >>> conned-cast or...nothing? or are there finally ISP's that aren't DSL >>> here?-- How is it? what's it really like? are they anygood? the speed is >>> still god awful at a pathetic 25mgs. but so is Comcast. Appallingly enough. >>> We get snow storms and stuff, is it a blackout then? >>> Asking because Comcast is going. From sometime early this morning to >>> about 20 minutes ago being out. Being legendarily terrible and no one has >>> had the korvnka's the slap them with a RICO anti-trust suit yet. God only >>> knows why. >>> So looking starlink and open to other options: >>> they have to real propper internet, at least 200mbs each way and >>> white-glove levels of service. >>> CC owen as well. 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