I sometimes get 300 Mbps on the older Starlink hardware supported here in
Ecuador. With the newer hardware they supply in the USA it would probably
approach 500. Even at $120 it sounds reasonable to me. Down here they don’t
seem to mind wiring a few houses together. I don’t know about up there.

On Thu, Sep 12, 2024 at 4:31 PM steve smith <sasm...@swcp.com> wrote:

> I'm on NMSurf.com for most of a decade now, after the grant-funded San I
> wireless system ground to a halt after the funding went away...   before
> that I enjoyed a whole year of HughesNet satellight which was painfully
> asymmetric and heavily latent.  Before that dialup over the most poorly
> maintained copper in the world/country/state/county (probably just the
> latter).    I think I'm paying for the lowest tier of 100Mbps and but I
> don't get any better service than I did when I was paying (the same price
> or a little more) for 25Mbps and similarly for 10Mbps before that.
>
> The hardest thing I ask of my ISP is one or maybe two simultaneous video
> streams (Netflix/Prime/Youtube, ???) and that was something even the 10Mbps
> (usually) served well enough.
>
> I was pulling signal from 23 miles away Line of Sight from the top of Big
> Tesuque for the longest time and it never failed, even in the harshest
> snow/rainstorms... a-mazing.   They relit the San lldefonso tower just
> about 1/2 mile from me and I get (best I can tell) the very same service,
> but it must be a lot easier/cheaper for them to provide such.   My downtime
> on top of the mountain was same or better, probably because they were
> probably serving a lot more people from that location and were a lot more
> on top of keeping the UPS and backup generators and multiple backhauls up
> and running 24/7   A few bad storms had them out of service for the long
> part of a day.   I get the same frequency/duration of outages (or higher)
> from my local "Tewa Tower" source which is probably a combination of
> problems with right-of-way for service on-pueblo and the small(er) number
> of clients (hundreds at most?) served from there.
>
> I considered Starlink a few years ago as a way to be redundant with my
> neighbors who variously do use some version of Comcast and Qwest copper
> lines.   There was a moment when I though I could talk them into letting me
> mesh all 4 houses together with 4 backhauls (comcast, qwest, microwave ala
> NMSurf, Starlink) but they were not really up for being that chummy  or
> dependent on me/one-another I think?
>
> What really stopped me was fine print in Musk's EULA which suggested that
> by accepting his service I was implicitely endorsing the idea that whomever
> landed on Mars first got to commercialize it.  I wish I could find that
> fine print again or some reference to it, maybe I made it up?  Oh, yeh,
> then he said "we will coup anyone we want"...   buh!
>
>
> - Steve
> On 9/12/24 8:30 AM, Gary Schiltz wrote:
>
> It depends on what's on the other end of your fiber connection :-)  Here
> in land that tech forgot, getting more than a few tens of megabits feels
> luxurious. One carrier has fiber optic passing over my property, and they
> offered to tap into it and give me 20 megabits for the low low price of
> $100 a month. Starlink's 300 megabits for $45 a month is heaven on earth.
> Isn't Santa Fe still sort of part of the third world?
>
> On Thu, Sep 12, 2024 at 9:06 AM Marcus Daniels <mar...@snoutfarm.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Neat trick, but no substitute for fiber. 🙂
>>
>> https://www.speedtest.net/result/c/d227591a-534e-4811-a3e9-1b055d44914d
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>> *From:* Friam <friam-boun...@redfish.com> on behalf of Gary Schiltz <
>> g...@naturesvisualarts.com>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 11, 2024 8:50 PM
>> *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <
>> friam@redfish.com>
>> *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] Starlink
>>
>> I have Starlink here in Ecuador and am very happy with it. But here it is
>> only $45 a month and $120 there.
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 11, 2024 at 10:21 PM Gillian Densmore <gil.densm...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> What are folks's thoughts on this? for the atrocious  choices of
>> conned-cast or...nothing? or are there finally ISP's that aren't DSL
>> here?-- How is it? what's it really like? are they anygood? the speed is
>> still god awful at a pathetic 25mgs. but so is Comcast. Appallingly enough.
>> We get snow storms and stuff, is it a blackout then?
>> Asking because Comcast is going. From sometime early this morning to
>> about 20 minutes ago being out. Being legendarily terrible and no one has
>> had the korvnka's the slap them with a RICO anti-trust suit yet. God only
>> knows why.
>> So looking starlink and open to other options:
>> they have to real propper internet, at least 200mbs each way and
>> white-glove levels of service.
>> CC owen as well. I suspect we've both had enough.
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