I'm on NMSurf.com for most of a decade now, after the grant-funded San I wireless system ground to a halt after the funding went away...   before that I enjoyed a whole year of HughesNet satellight which was painfully asymmetric and heavily latent.  Before that dialup over the most poorly maintained copper in the world/country/state/county (probably just the latter).    I think I'm paying for the lowest tier of 100Mbps and but I don't get any better service than I did when I was paying (the same price or a little more) for 25Mbps and similarly for 10Mbps before that.

The hardest thing I ask of my ISP is one or maybe two simultaneous video streams (Netflix/Prime/Youtube, ???) and that was something even the 10Mbps (usually) served well enough.

I was pulling signal from 23 miles away Line of Sight from the top of Big Tesuque for the longest time and it never failed, even in the harshest snow/rainstorms... a-mazing.   They relit the San lldefonso tower just about 1/2 mile from me and I get (best I can tell) the very same service, but it must be a lot easier/cheaper for them to provide such.   My downtime on top of the mountain was same or better, probably because they were probably serving a lot more people from that location and were a lot more on top of keeping the UPS and backup generators and multiple backhauls up and running 24/7   A few bad storms had them out of service for the long part of a day.   I get the same frequency/duration of outages (or higher) from my local "Tewa Tower" source which is probably a combination of problems with right-of-way for service on-pueblo and the small(er) number of clients (hundreds at most?) served from there.

I considered Starlink a few years ago as a way to be redundant with my neighbors who variously do use some version of Comcast and Qwest copper lines.   There was a moment when I though I could talk them into letting me mesh all 4 houses together with 4 backhauls (comcast, qwest, microwave ala NMSurf, Starlink) but they were not really up for being that chummy  or dependent on me/one-another I think?

What really stopped me was fine print in Musk's EULA which suggested that by accepting his service I was implicitely endorsing the idea that whomever landed on Mars first got to commercialize it.  I wish I could find that fine print again or some reference to it, maybe I made it up?  Oh, yeh, then he said "we will coup anyone we want"...   buh!


- Steve

On 9/12/24 8:30 AM, Gary Schiltz wrote:
It depends on what's on the other end of your fiber connection :-)  Here in land that tech forgot, getting more than a few tens of megabits feels luxurious. One carrier has fiber optic passing over my property, and they offered to tap into it and give me 20 megabits for the low low price of $100 a month. Starlink's 300 megabits for $45 a month is heaven on earth. Isn't Santa Fe still sort of part of the third world?

On Thu, Sep 12, 2024 at 9:06 AM Marcus Daniels <mar...@snoutfarm.com> wrote:

    Neat trick, but no substitute for fiber. 🙂

    https://www.speedtest.net/result/c/d227591a-534e-4811-a3e9-1b055d44914d
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    I have Starlink here in Ecuador and am very happy with it. But
    here it is only $45 a month and $120 there.

    On Wed, Sep 11, 2024 at 10:21 PM Gillian Densmore
    <gil.densm...@gmail.com> wrote:

        What are folks's thoughts on this? for the atrocious  choices
        of conned-cast or...nothing? or are there finally ISP's that
        aren't DSL here?-- How is it? what's it really like? are they
        anygood? the speed is still god awful at a pathetic 25mgs. but
        so is Comcast. Appallingly enough. We get snow storms and
        stuff, is it a blackout then?
        Asking because Comcast is going. From sometime early this
        morning to about 20 minutes ago being out. Being legendarily
        terrible and no one has had the korvnka's the slap them with a
        RICO anti-trust suit yet. God only knows why.
        So looking starlink and open to other options:
        they have to real propper internet, at least 200mbs each way
        and white-glove levels of service.
        CC owen as well. I suspect we've both had enough.
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