The puck conserves angular momentum as required by the physical law. Is that telic language?
--- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Tue, Aug 6, 2024, 3:10 PM Nicholas Thompson <thompnicks...@gmail.com> wrote: > Dear Phellow Phriammers, > > Ever since the days of Hywel White (GRHS) I have puzzled over the fact > that telic language so often appears in physics discussions. I used to > tease Hywel that Psychology must be the Mother of Physics, because he had > to use psychological terms to describe the motion of particles. More > recently, I have the same sort of discussions with Stephen Guerin who wants > to use telic language concerning the path of photons and least action. (I > hope I have this right, Stephen). You all have been tempted to think I am > just trolling, but I don't think I am. I think there may be places where > such descriptions are appropriate. I do think, for instance, that the > relation between the first derivative of a function and any point in that > function is analogous to the relation between the motivation of a behavior > and the behavior itself. > > i am back to weather again, after a vacation from it for my obsession with > unsuccessful vegetable gardening. Here is a quote from an Atmospheric > Dynamics text which is laying out the Coriolis Force. > > *What happens if we consider the hockey puck moving equator-ward relative > to the rotation of the Earth. In the absence of applied forces it must > conserve angular momentum. Upon being pulled equator-ward in the northern > hemisphere the radius of rotation of the puck begins to > increase.Consequently, an anti-rotational relative motion develops in order > to conserve angular momentum, [Italics by NST] * > > In the view of folks on this list, is this an appropriate use of telic > language, and why or why not? Stephen has a defensible argument in favor of > it's appropriateness, the only such argument I have ever heard. ( I don[t > buy the premises, but the argument is sound) I am wondering about the rest > of you. > > Nick > -. --- - / ...- .- .-.. .. -.. / -- --- .-. ... . / -.-. --- -.. . > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Fridays 9a-12p Friday St. Johns Cafe / Thursdays 9a-12p Zoom > https://bit.ly/virtualfriam > to (un)subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ > archives: 5/2017 thru present > https://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/ > 1/2003 thru 6/2021 http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/ >
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