We were at a friend's cocktail party in Pittsburgh. He was an MD and he had a cold. He poured himself a martini consisting of two shots of vodka, a couple drops of vermouth, and an olive. As he started to drink it he said, "I need to denature this virus."
--- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Sun, Oct 3, 2021, 2:03 PM Stephen Guerin <stephen.gue...@simtable.com> wrote: > On Sat, Oct 2, 2021 at 5:57 PM <thompnicks...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Just to be clear โ and perhaps nerdishly literal minded โ I would NEVER >> claim that word play alone is science; I would only claim that it has a >> role to play. >> >> >> >> On Sat, Oct 2, 2021 at 10:59 AM <thompnicks...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> You might help me distinguish between vicious DAWW and virtuous DAWW. >> You might exile me. But you probably wonโt get me to stop. >> >> >> If we follow the virtuous DAWW, it feels like wuwei >> <https://www.mdbg.net/chinese/dictionary?wdqb=c%3A%2A%E6%97%A0%E4%B8%BA%2A&wdrst=0>science >> to me. Who needs action <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Action_(physics)> >> when you got words? We are but meat puppets playing with nirvana >> <https://youtu.be/Sj8UbmdV7bk?t=53>. >> > Nick, I absolutely see the value in wordplay (DAWW) and do think it's an > important part of science and mathematics. > > I was being perhaps a little too clever in my own mind with my obtuse DAWW > riff above. At the risk of over parsing (like the risk of explaining a > joke) virtuous DAWW triggered the homophone of the Dao (้) and its central > concept of wu-wei, which is often inaccurately translated as inaction but > closer to right action / Least (stationary) action in physics for me. > > This then triggered lyrics of one of my favorite songs, Plateau > <https://genius.com/Nirvana-plateau-lyrics> from the Meat Puppets, "who > needs action when you got words". To me, the line captures your and my > relationship where I'm struggling with generalizing the concept of Action > in Complex Systems and you are working your thoughts out with words. I find > this a healthy dialogue! > > And then I couldn't resist sharing the MTV unplugged concert where Nirvana > covered the Meat Puppets song with one of the Meat Puppets playing on > stage. The link to Youtube is to that line in the song in the performance. > So the literal Meat Puppet playing with Nivana mutated to "we are but meat > puppets playing with Nirvana" gave me 15 minutes of interesting private > contemplation of a puppet master animating our puppets and wooing our > puppet minds with Nirvana. > > Certainly too obtuse of references and self-indulgent to post but what the > hell. > > So I really do appreciate your DAWW and was just trying to join in and > play with your dicking. :-) > > .-- .- -. - / .- -.-. - .. --- -. ..--.. / -.-. --- -. .--- ..- --. .- - . > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn UTC-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam > un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ > archives: > 5/2017 thru present https://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/ > 1/2003 thru 6/2021 http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/ >
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