Does all conscious (even synthetic) life need to be driven by a pleasure motive? This seems to be Nick’s claim. I expect the way this argument plays out is that, e.g., altruism is defined to “feel good”. It is tautological.
On Sep 16, 2021, at 12:22 PM, thompnicks...@gmail.com wrote: some of us might be writing only to hear ourselves gumflap? Pfffft! All of us are and all of us aren’t. For my own case, I am writing here to develop my thinking, so that it may someday coalesce into something that I publish, with, or without, others. That that enterprise is not entirely nugatory is evident in my writing which is both stable and evolving and usually does involve others. I stipulate that you all may be being forced to serve in a cause you may not have signed up for. I guess this is the point where a glen would say, “Live with it!” n Nick Thompson thompnicks...@gmail.com<mailto:thompnicks...@gmail.com> https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/ From: Friam <friam-boun...@redfish.com> On Behalf Of Steve Smith Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021 3:06 PM To: friam@redfish.com Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Could this possibly be true? On 9/16/21 10:35 AM, thompnicks...@gmail.com<mailto:thompnicks...@gmail.com> wrote: Just so’s you know, I took it from this email thread, where it pretty much stood alone. And remember. Y ou (we) aren’t just writing to one another. You (we) are writing to 300 other people. And according to Glen a few threads in the weft-weave back, some of us might be writing only to hear ourselves gumflap? I think that (his characterization or my characterization of his characterization or both) might be hyperbolic. .-- .- -. - / .- -.-. - .. --- -. ..--.. / -.-. --- -. .--- ..- --. .- - . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn UTC-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ archives: 5/2017 thru present https://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/ 1/2003 thru 6/2021 http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/
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