On 9/14/21 6:01 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote:
> See kernel.com

Yeh, like that...   plenty of what looks like slick pre-release
hype-by-allusion, yet undeniably evidence that the development in this
area is in a virtuous feedback loop.   A quick gander didn't present me
with any numbers but the gear looks pretty pricey...   probably the
stuff of a future motorcycle/bicycle/climbing helmet to upload your
brain as you go into a skid/fall/tumble!


>
>> On Sep 14, 2021, at 4:40 PM, Steve Smith <sasm...@swcp.com> wrote:
>>
>>  Glen-
>>> Ha! Well, not for me. I'm a technophile. Even more important than 
>>> drug-induced experiences are those induced by other technologies like 
>>> transcranial magnetic stimulation, which I don't regard as fundamentally 
>>> different from connectivity drugs. Implants would be even better for 
>>> interacting with that hairball of [intero|proprio]ceptive feedback loops 
>>> that compose consciousness as well as pain.
>>
>> I've been dabbling with transcutaneous electro neural stim and
>> electro muscular stim (TENS/EMS) primarily for pain and rehab (Mary's
>> recent back/leg pain/dysfunction), trying to work it into the VR/AR
>> simulacral artifacts I already fiddle with in
>> Visual/Aural/CheapHaptics.  
>>
>> The accessibility of VR/AR gear (HUD/HMD/GPU/CPU) has already
>> overshot my wildest dreams of a couple of decades ago   I fiddled
>> with EEG pickups 20 years ago but it was too early or at least there
>> was a metaphorical impedance mismatch of sorts. I've NOT dabbled with
>> transcranial magnetic stimulation...   I don't even know if it is
>> accessible.  I am curious (guardedly hopeful) that these things are
>> maturing at a pop/commercial level faster/better than at the
>> professional level.   There may well be a crowd-sourced ensemble
>> exploration underway right now.
>>
>> Regarding your /muscaria/fly agaric/ aspirations, I'm hearing
>> something more like homeopathy or law-of-similars since the "fly" in
>> /fly agaric/ comes from etymologically the habit of using it to
>> poison flies by infusing it in milk to attract flies.    Maybe this
>> is entirely a tangent (most of my observations here *are* tangents?).
>>
>> - Steve
>>
>>> So, I'll leave the sweat lodges and eating of wiggling things to more 
>>> adventurous types like you. But the drugs need not be orally administered. 
>>> I've always wanted to try to fly by painting myself with muscaria.
>>>
>>> On 9/14/21 11:03 AM, Prof David West wrote:
>>>> Glen: /Were I fully liberated, I'd be doing a lot more, and a lot more 
>>>> diverse, drugs than I do./
>>>>
>>>> Diversity of *_/experiences/_*, not just drugs!!
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