Is it possible to have, in this group, a civil discussion where the accepted view of the IPCC that unless we reduce CO2 emissions we are heading for disaster is challenged?
On 29 December 2017 at 20:25, Eric Smith <desm...@santafe.edu> wrote: > I agree with both Glen and Jillian, > > this is more on the right tack. It’s not about stupidity. It’s about a > kind of character degeneracy further down, and a certain kind of vileness > that becomes possible at that level. > > I would add one thing to Jill’s and Glen’s emphasis (attention trolling), > which is that this is about thugs. That goes beyond the executive to an > increasingly purified right wing since Gingrich’s tactics in (the 80s?). > It is not that they don’t know “the truth” of a matter; it is an active war > on the existence of truth as a public good, or of anything else that > impedes the exercise of thug power. Nick has articulated this cleanly in > several emails, over the past months. > > But again, anger and outrage are for people. Or for something close > enough to people that there is anything redeemable about it. Disinfectants > and vaccines are for public health problems. No less commitment, but a > different kind, and hopefully a more focused mind. > > Eric > > > > On Dec 29, 2017, at 10:49 AM, uǝlƃ ☣ <geprope...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > You called it, Gillian. Trump and his ilk (Milo, Spencer, etc.) thrive > on their ability to invoke. Beliefs and knowledge take a back seat, which > is why they are so capable of munging the facts and changing their tune > when confronted. > > > > So I have to disagree fundamentally with Nick, Merle, Tom, Frank, and > Pamela. He's not "that stupid". In fact, that question is irrelevant. He > simply knows how to push the buttons, especially of the well-intentioned > people who care about beliefs and knowledge. > > > > On 12/29/2017 09:40 AM, Gillian Densmore wrote: > >> He is one of these: > >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll > > > > -- > > ☣ uǝlƃ > > > > ============================================================ > > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > > to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove > > > ============================================================ > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove >
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