On Sat, Oct 03, 2009 at 07:07:00PM -0700, Miles Parker wrote: > > IANAL of course, but in general this situation is no different form one > where ay someone has an idea, tells it to someone else, and that someone > else writes a book about it. Ideas can't be copyrighted but software can; > and implementations of ideas can be patented. (Yuck, though..) Am I right
No - only the ideas can be patented. The whole software patent brouha revolves around people patenting fairly obvious software algorithms for marginally novel uses. But it is not the software itself that is patented - if I write a piece of software that implements someone patented algorithm, then I am potentially infringing that patent, regardless of whether I even know the patent existed. > folks? By default the copyright is with the actual author, i.e. in this > case the programer, unless there is some specific agreement otherwise. But > that's just the default situation; if that's not what you want then you > guys need to come up with an agreement that specifies that you share > copyright and then make sure that the code has the appropriate notices. > That should be really straightforward. > > > On Oct 3, 2009, at 6:27 PM, Hugh Trenchard wrote: > >> Hi Robert. I subscribe to the FRIAM listserv, and have seen your note >> here. >> >> I'm wondering what the law is regarding the sharing of intellectual >> property where one person establishes the general rules for a computer >> simulation and then takes those rules to a programmer who then creates a >> specific program based on your rules. Do you both share in the resulting >> simulation, or can the programmer argue the simulation is his/hers? I am >> in a situation where I have established the general rules for a >> simulation, and another fellow has created the actual sim - so am curious >> to know how we should go about claiming our respective intellectual >> property rights (hopefully they are shared). >> >> Thanks and would be grateful if you could run this by Dr Winchell. >> >> Hugh Trenchard >> Victoria >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Robert Cordingley >> To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group >> Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 10:35 AM >> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Publishing Agreements (was "More mumbo-jumbo") >> >> For those nearby, don't forget the sfComplex Meeting on Intellectual >> Property is next Tuesday, October 6, 2009 2:00 pm to 4:00 pm >> (seehttp://sfcomplex.org/wordpress/2009/09/intel_property#more-3032 for >> details). I can try to get Bruce to answer a few questions like these if >> it's too far for you. Email me your question (50 words or less) and I'll >> see what I can do. >> >> Thanks, >> Robert C >> >> >> ERIC P. CHARLES wrote: >>> >>> Interestingly, >>> Most journals I interact with no longer have paper options for this sort >>> of thing. All you do is click on a link that says "I agree". I have >>> wondered how enforceable any such agreement is, and what the publisher >>> would do if I insisted on a paper transaction in which I could do things >>> like write in clauses. Has anyone had experience with these issues? >>> >>> Eric >>> >>> <snipped> >> >> >> ============================================================ >> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv >> Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College >> lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org >> ============================================================ >> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv >> Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College >> lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org > > ============================================================ > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Prof Russell Standish Phone 0425 253119 (mobile) Mathematics UNSW SYDNEY 2052 [email protected] Australia http://www.hpcoders.com.au ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org
