Interestingly, Most journals I interact with no longer have paper options for this sort of thing. All you do is click on a link that says "I agree". I have wondered how enforceable any such agreement is, and what the publisher would do if I insisted on a paper transaction in which I could do things like write in clauses. Has anyone had experience with these issues?
Eric On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 11:17 PM, "Nicholas Thompson" <[email protected]> wrote: > Nobody ever objected to my careting in, > >"Nothing in this document shall limit the author's ability to share copies >of this work for his own career development purposes.": > >In only two cases, did it make any trouble...in one they backed down, and >in the other (they were making life hell for the editor of the volume my >piece was going into) I backed down. > >Author's contracts are the pits. I particularly used to wince at the >phrase, "the authors shall hold the publisher harmless from any harm >arising from the publication of the work." Oh, sure. > >Nick > >Nicholas S. Thompson >Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Ethology, >Clark University ([email protected]) >http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ > > > > >> [Original Message] >> From: russell standish <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]>; The Friday Morning Applied Complexity >Coffee >Group <[email protected]> >> Date: 10/3/2009 4:11:06 PM >> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] FYI: More mumbo-jumbo @ emergence >> >> On Fri, Oct 02, 2009 at 11:56:04AM -0700, Russ Abbott wrote: >> > >> > Furthermore, it is always OK to publish "pre-prints" of >journal >articles. >> > These are author-formatted versions of published articles. Pre-prints >allow >> > the contents of articles to be made available without charge without >giving >> > away the formatting "added value" contributed by the >publisher. >> > >> > -- Russ A >> > >> >> >From a legal standpoint, I don't think this is true, unless the >> journal specifically allows for it in their transfer of copyright >> agreement, which most journals require authors to sign. >> >> What I _always_ do is read the copyright assignment agreement, and if >> it doesn't specifically allow for the article to be added to an >> e-print server, I will add in the specific clause allowing me to do >> this, before signing the copyright transfer and sending it back. Many >> of the important journals will allow for e-print servers and personal >> websites, but some of the newer journals do not. >> >> I don't much agree with copyright transfer, but in as much as it >> appears to be necessary to be published, I use the same technique that >> they use (ie large gobs of legalese that people never read) to >get the >> necessary changes in. >> >> Interestingly, I have only had one instance of a push back by a >> publisher when I did this (obviously they did read the fine print >> :). This threatened to delay the publication of a collection of >> papers, and in the end was resolved by them issuing me with a specific >> license to allow for e-print publication. However, there was a >> Catch-22 situation where I wouldn't sign the copy transfer until they >> sent me the license, and they would give me a license until they had >> copyright. In the end, they relented and sent me the license first, >> after I pointed out the license could only start operating once I >> transferred copyright. >> >> Bugger 'em. >> >> -- >> >> >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> Prof Russell Standish Phone 0425 253119 (mobile) >> Mathematics >> UNSW SYDNEY 2052 [email protected] >> Australia http://www.hpcoders.com.au >> >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> ============================================================ >> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv >> Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College >> lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org > > > >============================================================ >FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv >Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College >lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org > > > Eric Charles Professional Student and Assistant Professor of Psychology Penn State University Altoona, PA 16601
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