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Good morning Doug,

I am trying to create a contrast matrix (also attached as a text file) for
the following conditions -

I have two treatment arms A and B
For treatment arm A, I have subjects 1, 2, 3 imaged at TP1, TP2, TP3
For treatment arm B, I have subjects 4, 5, 6 imaged at TP1, TP2, TP3.

I have used the repeated measures ANOVA tutorial to set up some of the
contrasts as follows -

GroupDescriptorFile 1
Title A-Vs-B-Long
Class A-TP1
Class B-TP1
Class A-TP2
Class B-TP2
Class A-TP3
Class B-TP3
Variables A-TP1-vs-A-TP2 A-TP1-vs-A-TP3 B-TP1-vs-B-TP2 B-TP1-vs-B-TP3
A-TP1-vs-B-TP1 A-TP2-vs-B-TP2 A-TP3-vs-B-TP3
Input sub1-TP1 A-TP1 1 1 0 0
Input sub2-TP1 A-TP1 1 1 0 0
Input sub3-TP1 A-TP1 1 1 0 0
Input sub4-TP1 B-TP1 0 0 1 1
Input sub5-TP1 B-TP1 0 0 1 1
Input sub6-TP1 B-TP1 0 0 1 1
Input sub1-TP2 A-TP2 -1 0 0 0
Input sub2-TP2 A-TP2 -1 0 0 0
Input sub3-TP2 A-TP2 -1 0 0 0
Input sub4-TP2 B-TP2 0 0 -1 0
Input sub5-TP2 B-TP2 0 0 -1 0
Input sub6-TP2 B-TP2 0 0 -1 0
Input sub1-TP3 A-TP3 0 -1 0 0
Input sub2-TP3 A-TP3 0 -1 0 0
Input sub3-TP3 A-TP3 0 -1 0 0
Input sub4-TP3 B-TP3 0 0 0 -1
Input sub5-TP3 B-TP3 0 0 0 -1
Input sub6-TP3 B-TP3 0 0 0 -1


Question 1 - My question is how do I setup the contrasts for the different
treatment arms -

A-TP1-vs-B-TP1 A-TP2-vs-B-TP2 A-TP3-vs-B-TP3

Question 2 - Also I have age and cognitive scores for each timepoint. How
do I add those to the contrast file ?

Thank you for the help,

Regards

Rito

On Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 10:51 AM Douglas N. Greve <dgr...@mgh.harvard.edu>
wrote:

> Yes, it will work on both. If you use a table, then pass the table with
> --table tablefile instead of --y
>
> On 7/12/2021 7:54 AM, Ritobrato Datta wrote:
>
>         External Email - Use Caution
> Good morning,
>
> Thanks Doug for the answers. Quick naive question. The analyses I want to
> perform are on volumetric data parcellated using aseg and not surface data.
>
> Does mri_glmfit work with the output of the asegstats2table or on
> voxelwise FA maps ?
>
> Many thanks
>
> Rito
>
> On Fri, Jul 9, 2021 at 4:04 PM Douglas N. Greve <dgr...@mgh.harvard.edu>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On 7/9/2021 11:44 AM, Ritobrato Datta wrote:
>>
>>         External Email - Use Caution
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>>
>> I have the following data –
>>
>>
>>
>> I have 205 subjects - each subject was imaged at 3 timepoints (baseline,
>> followup 1 and followup 2)
>>
>> The 205 subjects are split in two treatment arms with 100 subjects in the
>> first one and 105 subjects in the second one.
>>
>>
>>
>> For each timepoint, I have created FA maps in their native diffusion
>> space.
>>
>> I have also extracted the mean FA maps for 187 ROIs using mri_segstats.
>>
>> For each timepoint, I have saved the results as a matrix (FA in 187 ROIs
>> x 205 subjects) in a text file.
>>
>> So I have three files for the three timepoints.
>>
>>
>>
>> I have the age and cognitive score for each subject at each timepoint.
>> And their gender.
>>
>>
>>
>> I want to answer the following questions –
>>
>>
>>
>>    1. Do the baseline FA correlate with the corresponding cognitive
>>    score at baseline ?
>>
>> This is a straight forward group analysis, so see *MailScanner has
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>> be* 
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>>  (maybe
>> the Two Groups (1 Factor, Two Levels), One Covariate
>> <https://secure-web.cisco.com/1Rg-kxMT-3fQYeRaisunO8_YESB0oLHn151lBD4p9GXp_k96wsb_0fS3wm9AsXst9uQO9dbqRePqf6ijMZUnk_-eFE6HtBGPMjtgURPbRAk_5EC3Q0F3VX-mhUssaYthkDfBZtL6yv0bGjJhKRQulYDXsfvmbpUWl4VH11l7cdQD2p1m_QzCr5liecQPY6UPX6OiGxGITQdALxOE9JdoIyXv0aJ_ozwU_Lw9H2pA2lcXdQEb4RTfOartXbc2P58SNR1mmH4DIzvfp7MxOG1oqRA/https%3A%2F%2Fsurfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu%2Ffswiki%2FFsgdf2G1V>)
>>
>>
>>
>>    1. I am interested in testing whether the FA changed significantly
>>    across the different timepoints and does that relate to the change in the
>>    cognitive score
>>
>> See *MailScanner has detected a possible fraud attempt from
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>> https://secure-web.cisco.com/1e-onyc_rYKGqWksTToqKP4uqWespCReuPBJOrGcNOZRRibbQSE-yW4NeksFQgQhhkqsb_hk1A_HC0BoxjePQa6hZyg_ZEjAvfREbvB9zqBJwzLSDP9mp0FRHMvH-eHcu3fvzLT3QbULVJgexy0fUD-CNkHWJev5lPNkDEy6Sl-czpF7ITgXHN-i2Fx-P6NdDG2gcQuHLdsQxpFb111wWY4aBe1aW9GlBoLq7cfeQtVV036aRa02ZfqgSNdw07yC3lva5uE-QLm7Y6KJ42kgBIQ/https%3A%2F%2Fsurfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu%2Ffswiki%2FRepeatedMeasuresAnova
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>>
>>
>>    1. Is there an effect of treatment on this change in FA across time ?
>>
>> Also see *MailScanner has detected a possible fraud attempt from
>> "secure-web.cisco.com" claiming to be*
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>>
>>
>>
>> Can you please suggest what programs in freesurfer will allow me to test
>> these questions on both voxelwise and ROI wise ?
>>
>>
>> Many thanks for your help and guidance,
>>
>>
>> Regards
>>
>>
>> Rito
>>
>>
GroupDescriptorFile 1                                                   
Title A-Vs-B-Long                                                       
Class A-TP1                                                     
Class B-TP1                                                     
Class A-TP2                                                     
Class B-TP2                                                     
Class A-TP3                                                     
Class B-TP3                                                     
Variables       A-TP1-vs-A-TP2  A-TP1-vs-A-TP3  B-TP1-vs-B-TP2  B-TP1-vs-B-TP3  
A-TP1-vs-B-TP1  A-TP2-vs-B-TP2  A-TP3-vs-B-TP3
Input sub1-TP1 A-TP1    1       1       0       0                       
Input sub2-TP1 A-TP1    1       1       0       0                       
Input sub3-TP1 A-TP1    1       1       0       0                       
Input sub4-TP1 B-TP1    0       0       1       1                       
Input sub5-TP1 B-TP1    0       0       1       1                       
Input sub6-TP1 B-TP1    0       0       1       1                       
Input sub1-TP2 A-TP2    -1      0       0       0                       
Input sub2-TP2 A-TP2    -1      0       0       0                       
Input sub3-TP2 A-TP2    -1      0       0       0                       
Input sub4-TP2 B-TP2    0       0       -1      0                       
Input sub5-TP2 B-TP2    0       0       -1      0                       
Input sub6-TP2 B-TP2    0       0       -1      0                       
Input sub1-TP3 A-TP3    0       -1      0       0                       
Input sub2-TP3 A-TP3    0       -1      0       0                       
Input sub3-TP3 A-TP3    0       -1      0       0                       
Input sub4-TP3 B-TP3    0       0       0       -1                      
Input sub5-TP3 B-TP3    0       0       0       -1                      
Input sub6-TP3 B-TP3    0       0       0       -1                      
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