> On 07/10/2021 18:47, tom ehlert wrote:
>> were these 2 layouts dynamically switchable (and actually
>> switched)

> They were actually not switchable, mainly due to their implementation:
> CP852 was provided by "mode con cp" through MS-DOS, while the Mazovia 
> codepage was usually loaded through a custom TSR (maz.exe comes to 
> mind). Hence "switching" required to unload maz.exe and run the 
> appropriate mode con cp prepare/select combo. And that's what I was 
> doing whenever I needed to use a program that was assuming CP852.

> But now, since Mazovia and CP852 are both supported by FreeDOS, they can
> be easily switched without relying on any exotic TSRs.

> The full story is that when the IBM PC came to Poland, it wasn't 
> handling Polish glyphs at all, so Poles had to come up with their own 
> codepage when creating their IBM PC clone (Mazovia 1016). It was first
> burned in custom ROMs, and later - with VGA cards - loaded to the VGA 
> memory through TSRs.
> Then, later, Microsoft/IBM decided to support Polish, and did so by 
> cramming most of east-European glyphs into CP852... Which not only led
> to a poorly usable codepage (garbled Norton Commander semigraphics!), 
> but also introduced chaos in the way Poles were exchanging text. Some 
> started using the Microsoft 852 page, since it was meant to be the "new
> standard", and others kept using Mazovia since it was superior and 
> well-established... Ah, those good times.

so there would be 2 polish keyboard layouts: PLMAZ and PL852.

still no way to communicate this between KEYB and DISPLAY and PRINTER.

maybe just switch to Windows/Linux and UTF-whatever ;)

Tom



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