Hi On Tue, Nov 19, 2024 at 05:44:48PM -0500, Vittorio Giovara wrote: > On Tue, Nov 19, 2024 at 3:50 PM Michael Niedermayer <mich...@niedermayer.cc> [...] > > I also do not believe STF and SPI are being used appropriately, and > > > I believe Thilo is recieving money through this, possible via Michael, > > > (and also only appears when the next thing he needs is relevant). I > > > > You should tell the police and file a lawsuit, if you belive any part > > of this. > > > > About SPI, they are a non-profit and quite transparent. If someone > > believes something is wrong, best would be to contact SPI. > > > > FFmpeg-SPI money can only be used after a request/discussion was on the > > public ffmpeg-devel mailing list. > > (we have cases for travel, for hw, for passing money from > > GSoC to mentors, from STF to people doing the STF work) > > This allows the community to direct and block all uses of SPI funds. > > > > Note, for cases like STF the community must speak up at the point before > > contracts are signed. because after that SPI/STF/Developers are bound > > by the contract and payment has to occur in exchange for the work. > > > > Is this why amounts were set 1h before submission?
Which amounts ? But first let me explain STF 2024. 1. There was a minimum fo 150k € that was required for submitting a propsal to STF 2024. 2. The Developer intending to do the "Cleanup HEVC Decoder" was unable to participate (i dont remember why) So after this, we where short of the needed 150k and we needed to fill this up with something. I tried finding people that would add tasks, i talked with anton for example. So some tasks and amounts where set on the public wiki probably quite late. But i dont think it was 1h before submission > > beyond that, your accusation is too vague and general to really > > comment. I have no idea what you talk about. I remember no payment > > to thilo except travel reimbursements. > > > > If I may clarify, the problems raised with STF are: > 1. nobody even knew there were people in talks with the association to > decide on funding > 2. the projects were decided after the funding decision happened The projects where on a public wiki page > 3. the amount to be paid for the projects were unilaterally decided by an > unknown entity The amounts paid where also on a public wiki page > > In short, somebody acted in the shadows and even now keeps acting, ignoring > the community requests for having due process and some transparency. many entities act in the shadows, for example fflabs doesnt publically announce what new contracts it got this week ... about people, and this specific case, the way i understand it, the very offensive, accusationary, inflamatory and slandering tone we have on the mailing list. Is incompatible with people. And so they send some private mails but delay announcing it on the mailing list as they do not want to get drawn into these threads. In an ideal world, the CC would be functioning and people writing such mails would have been somehow turned into something nicer. Or the more childish reply, everyone be nice and treat people like you would want to be treated / treat him like a human being not like a criminal. If 3 or 4 people accuse and finger point at thilo all the time, yeah then he will avoid you. And you wont know who he is talking with about funding FFmpeg. This is not about the community. Iam sure thilo never intended to hide anything from the community. It is about a small set of very aggressive people And, i dont enjoy being involved in these threads either. Iam just differnt where thilo just doesnt reply or doesnt post. I try to resolve things by replying. Not that i enjoy it or think these accusatory threads should exist. > > > also think there is something weird going on with our booths which Thilo > > > keeps registering wihtout telling the community, and GPAC (NAB is already > > > registered BTW, with noone being told). > > > > Thilo managed booths since many years and these are publically announced. > > In case of "next NAB" i belive Thilo has not been able to find a sponsor > > yet. I suspect thats why it was not announced > > > > That's not how booth management works, you need to pay the venue to > register for the space. AFAIK thilo payed using his own money but either theres a 2nd part that needs money he lacks or something like that, i dont know exactly. thx [...] -- Michael GnuPG fingerprint: 9FF2128B147EF6730BADF133611EC787040B0FAB When you are offended at any man's fault, turn to yourself and study your own failings. Then you will forget your anger. -- Epictetus
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