I am not going to pass judgment on this. I can't really do that. I can only say that this is a minority report. The general consensus I am hearing is that a compound that changes the pH of blood in a way that slows the progress of a protistan responsible for malaria has no influence on a corona virus.
LC On Thursday, July 30, 2020 at 3:02:12 PM UTC-5 [email protected] wrote: > Refute this Telmo- > https://www.henryford.com/news/2020/07/hydro-treatment-study > > https://www.ijidonline.com/article/S1201-9712(20)30534-8/fulltext > > One viewer here indicated this was not a study-but it is a study indeed > concluding the benefits of Hydro. > > Now what do I think? If it works it works, and if it doesn't it doesn't. > Do the opponents of the old drug in question care if it works? Seemingly > no, they are just foaming at the mouth because Orange Dude endorsed it. If > it doesn't work, screw it. If it can help some people, keep it at hand. > What does John Clark care about? Orange Man Bad! This has zero to do with > fighting the Wuhan flu. For the opponents of Orange Man nothing else > matters. Civil (US) Conflict? Next stop! Take care. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Telmo Menezes <[email protected]> > To: John Clark <[email protected]>; 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List < > [email protected]> > Sent: Thu, Jul 30, 2020 2:28 pm > Subject: Re: Sharpiegate > > > > Am Do, 30. Jul 2020, um 17:16, schrieb John Clark: > > > On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 11:27 AM Telmo Menezes <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > *I disapprove of Trump and everything he stands for as much as you do. > I detest him. He is an incompetent narcissist, and his election as the > president of the USA was a nightmare come true.* > > > Truer words were never spoken! > > > *I think that the current extreme political polarization of all things > is doing damage to science. A symptom of this is that the epistemological > status of things such as the efficacy of hydroxychloriquine became > impossible to determine for those not deeply involved in the field, even if > scientifically literate and able to follow the papers.* > > > Crackpots, and in that I would include Trump supporters and the > hydroxychloroquine cure COVID-19 people, don't just dispute well > established theories, they dispute the raw data itself. I've had otherwise > intelligent people tell me that every epidemiologist in the world is wrong, > and the entire scientific community is wrong, and even insist every bit of > data we have about COVID-19 is wrong. Why would they do that? Because if > the data was right they would have to radically change their worldview and > face the fact that Donald Trump is not doing a good job. Changing one's > worldview is quite painful for some people. > > Nobody can be knowledgeable about everything, so if the vast majority of > expert > specialists in the world on a very complicated subject like epidemiology, > agrees on something, people who have spent their life studying the subject, > then I think they are much more likely to be correct then you or I are > after we've only been studying the matter for 20 minutes or so. That's why > people read scientific journals and believe that what they say is probably > true even if they haven't personally carried out the experiments described > in them. People that we trust, because they have proven to be right in the > past, judge new research and if they think it's not valid they don't > publish it in their journals, and if they think it is valid then they do. > It's a web of trust, it's what the cryptographic program PGP uses to > ensure that a public key really belongs to the person that it claims to. > And history has shown the system, although not perfect, works pretty well > most of the time, which is a hell of a lot better than most things work. > > And by the way, I don't think Trump has spent even 20 minutes studying > viral epidemiology or statistical theory in his entire life. > > > I more or less agree with everything you say. That is exactly why I worry > that incidents such as the Lancet retraction are damaging to the web of > trust. > > > Telmo > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/777296fb-a76b-4b8a-aef6-f8bb70c45aa4%40www.fastmail.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/777296fb-a76b-4b8a-aef6-f8bb70c45aa4%40www.fastmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/4cbd46d5-96e5-49d8-b662-6e9b4c493e92n%40googlegroups.com.
