I disapprove of Trump and everything he stands for as much as you do. I detest him. He is an incompetent narcissist, and his election as the president of the USA was a nightmare come true.
With that out of the way: I think that the current extreme political polarization of all things is doing damage to science. A symptom of this is that the epistemological status of things such as the efficacy of hydroxychloriquine became impossible to determine for those not deeply involved in the field, even if scientifically literate and able to follow the papers. In the beginning of June, The Lancet had to face the retraction of a paper that had previously concluded that patients taking the drug had worse outcomes than the baseline: https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)31324-6/fulltext I have dealt with scientific journals on matters that require dataset availability (on much less serious matters), and they would not allow publication before being assured of this basic requirement. I don't know how The Lancet operates in this regard, but it is hard to avoid the suspicion that this paper was rushed to acceptance because everyone liked the conclusion. I think that the rational position for an outsider is now to doubt any results related to this topic, positive or negative. I worry that this "large veridict" may be tainted. My intuition is still that hydroxychloriquine doesn't work, and I have little doubt that Trump endorses it for all the wrong reasons, but a lot of damage was done by the above incident. Telmo Am Do, 30. Jul 2020, um 11:57, schrieb Lawrence Crowell: > On Wednesday, July 29, 2020 at 7:04:07 PM UTC-5 [email protected] wrote: >> Again, regarding, Hydroxychloroquine, please refute: >> >> https://www.henryford.com/news/2020/07/hydro-treatment-study >> >> https://www.ijidonline.com/article/S1201-9712(20)30534-8/fulltext >> >> https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7330574/ >> >> > > I am not near enough of a bio-medical scientist to comment on these papers > and what might be wrong with these. The last is just the NIH listing of > papers and their abstracts or briefs. This is not an endorsement of the > results. I am just aware results or claims of such results showing an > efficacy for hydroxychloriquine are a minority report. The at large verdict > is opposite. > > LC > >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Lawrence Crowell <[email protected]> >> To: Everything List <[email protected]> >> Sent: Wed, Jul 29, 2020 7:55 pm >> Subject: Re: Sharpiegate >> >> On Wednesday, July 29, 2020 at 7:01:12 AM UTC-5 [email protected] wrote: >>> The following is from the July 10 issue of the journal Science and shows >>> just how far Donald Trump is willing to corrupt science just so he doesn't >>> have to admit he was wrong: >>> >>> NOAA watchdog chides agency for how it handled Hurricane Dorian’s >>> ‘Sharpiegate’ >>> <https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/07/noaa-watchdog-chides-agency-how-it-handled-hurricane-dorian-s-sharpiegate> >> >> It is a case of how people become sycophants for t'Rump. >> >>> >>> And meanwhile just yesterday Trump was back on national television pushing >>> a quack cure for COVID-19 (hydroxychloroquine) on millions of Americans and >>> using as his "very impressive evidence" testimony of a doctor who believes >>> facemasks are unnecessary, and many illnesses are caused by people having >>> sex in their dreams with demons and witches, and the COVID-19 vaccines in >>> development are made of DNA from space alien's demon sperm to make people >>> less religious. >> >> It is my understanding that double-blind tests of hydroxycholoroqune have >> shown no efficacy for this and can't be judged an effective treatment of >> Covid-19. This is in contrast to the other links sent in this thread. >> Don-the-Con t'Rump bought shares of stock from a company in India back when >> he was met with PM Modi. Hey, wait! He violated the emoluments clause, but >> then again who pays attention to that old rag called the Constitution these >> days? >> >> The Lizard men or Saurians from outer space! This has been around for a >> while. I remember running into this about 20 years ago. It is a crazy idea >> spun by a British media sports reporter. >> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reptilian_conspiracy_theory >> >> LC >> >>> >>> >>> The good doctor also believes the US government is not run by human beings >>> but by creatures called "reptilians"... come to think of it ... she may not >>> be entirely wrong on that last point. >>> >>> John K Clark >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Everything List" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/2567cd39-1c22-4cc8-8a5f-5a0173c29471n%40googlegroups.com >> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/2567cd39-1c22-4cc8-8a5f-5a0173c29471n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> >> . > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/9b55c5d9-bb85-4fdc-aa98-0e17d24f1ca5n%40googlegroups.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/9b55c5d9-bb85-4fdc-aa98-0e17d24f1ca5n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. 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