> On 12 Jun 2019, at 08:25, 'Cosmin Visan' via Everything List > <[email protected]> wrote: > > Of course is empty since it doesn't mean anything. As John Searle said it: > you can let a pen fall from a height and you can consider it to calculate x = > x0 + yt + gt^2/2.
That is typically not a computation, which is a digital notion. You might say that it is a analog or natural computations, but then Searles' critics on digital computationalism works through on that very notion too, and that is why Searles needs its metaphysical naturalism. Bruno > So is just words play, you can say about anything you want that it > "computes". Of course, besides consciousness. > > On Wednesday, 12 June 2019 08:11:32 UTC+3, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > So then computing is not empty. > > Consciousness itself is intrinsic (vs. extrinsic) computing. > > @philipthrift > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/7e4f3d17-d256-4f8c-aa93-bbe4ec918a8f%40googlegroups.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/7e4f3d17-d256-4f8c-aa93-bbe4ec918a8f%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/9AC89764-6679-41D6-BEEB-C386ED95F8BD%40ulb.ac.be.
