On Tuesday, July 15, 2025 at 11:25:12 AM UTC-6 Quentin Anciaux wrote:
All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. (Roy Batty/Rutger Hauer) Le mar. 15 juil. 2025, 15:37, Alan Grayson <[email protected]> a écrit : On Tuesday, July 15, 2025 at 4:46:03 AM UTC-6 John Clark wrote: On Mon, Jul 14, 2025 at 10:30 PM Alan Grayson <[email protected]> wrote: *> Given the fact that light from very distant galaxies is hugely red-shifted, and the general belief that light we're observing today from those distant galaxies, was emitted when the universe was very young, one would conclude that the rate of expansion at that time was huge. But Clark disputes this conclusion. He claims the opposite; that the rate of expansion in the very early universe was exceedingly SLOW. But Clark disputes this conclusion. He claims the opposite; that the rate of expansion in the very early universe was exceedingly SLOW. * *But Clark has never made that claim, and I should know because I am the world's greatest expert on that man. Galaxies in the past were expanding slower from each other than they are today,* *Yes. AG* * but that was NOT a time when the universe was "very young". Galaxies didn't even start to form until about 100 million years after the Big Bang. * *"Very young" is subjective. When I have time, I'll search for your misleading claim. AG* It's incredible how you never ever consider the possibility of having misread or misunderstood something. It's always the other person at fault. JC never made that claim, and instead of vaguely promising to "search for it later", you should either cite it now or refrain from making accusations. Truth isn't whatever you feel it is, it's in the actual words, not your projections. Quentin *I asked him about that at the time, more than once, and he seemed to affirm what I alleged above. But right now, my computer was hacked, so my priority has been to remove the hackers. I suggest you mind your own business, and I will try to find his claim. Like I said, when I have the time. Incidentally, I can and do admit my mistakes, so take this advice; never say never. AG * *> If that's the case, can we conclude that the theory of Inflation must be false, * *That is a strange conclusion to make given the fact that if the theory of Inflation is correct then the rate of expansion of the very early universe was approximately 10^52 (10,000 trillion trillion trillion trillion) times faster than it is today. * *Not at all strange. If the universe was expanding very slowing immediately after the BB, it would contradict Inflation theory. AG * *John K Clark See what's on my new list at Extropolis <https://groups.google.com/g/extropolis>* r55 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/7a2e848c-c00f-4acf-97dc-f6668ede271dn%40googlegroups.com <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/7a2e848c-c00f-4acf-97dc-f6668ede271dn%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/e9da4f0b-4075-4cf1-8eaa-89b09195931en%40googlegroups.com.
