On Monday, July 14, 2025 at 10:52:44 PM UTC-6 Brent Meeker wrote:

Galaxies formed waaay after the Big Bang and we can't actually observe 
anything earlier than the recombination around 400,000yr after the BB.


I am aware of that. Nevertheless, the red shift of distant galaxies 
indicates that they were receding at huge velocities, obviously after they 
were formed. According to Inflation theory, there was a HUGE, HUGE 
expansion immediately after the BB, which lasted for a TINY, TINY fraction 
of the first second. This is generally accepted within the physics 
community since it answers some pressing issues such as the uniformity of 
the CMB. AG


I don't know what JKC said about the speed of early expansion, but it seems 
to be increasing so it will be faster in the future than it was in the 
past. 


He claimed the early rate of expansion was exceedingly slow, and that the 
red shift we now observes indicates the current receding velocity. AG 




Brent

On 7/14/2025 7:30 PM, Alan Grayson wrote:

Given the fact that light from very distant galaxies is hugely red-shifted, 
and the general belief that light we're observing today from those distant 
galaxies, was emitted when the universe was very young, one would conclude 
that the rate of expansion at that time was huge. But Clark disputes this 
conclusion. He claims the opposite; that the rate of expansion in the very 
early universe was exceedingly SLOW. If that's the case, can we conclude 
that the theory of Inflation must be false, insofar as it alleges a huge 
initial expansion rate to account for the observed uniformity of the 
current universe? Moreover, Hubble's law confirms that as we go back in 
time, the universe was expanding faster than it is today, again apparently 
confirming the Inflation theory of a very high initial rate of expansion 
(ignoring recent findings the the rate of expansion is iagain ncreasing). 
AG 

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