On Tue, Jun 10, 2025 at 10:58 PM Alan Grayson <[email protected]>
wrote:

*>> Velocity is about objects moving through space, but the redshift tells
> us how much space itself has been expanding.*
>
>
> *> The redshift gives us a combination of expansion of space and the
> recessional velocity through space.*
>

*Yes.*



> *> But since we're observing the galaxy as it was, about 10 billion years
> ago, how can we deny that it's now receding at near light speed if that's
> what our measurements plainly reveal?*
>

*Deny? What are we denying? I don't understand the question.  *


> * I am having difficulty resolving the rapid recessional velocity implied
> by Hubble's law, whether it's now or in the past. AG*
>

*The "Hubble constant" is a poor name because it's not constant, a better
name would be the Hubble parameter. When people speak about the Hubble
constant what they usually mean is the rate at which the universe is
expanding right now, the symbol for that is H0.*


*> If photons have no measured extent, which I think Brent concedes, the
> model of their "waves" being stretched as the universe expands, does not
> explain their loss of energy. AG *
>

*Yes it does explain how photons lose their energy as the universe expands
because in addition to saying that photons have no measurable extent
Quantum Mechanics ALSO says that the formula for finding the energy in a
photon is:*

*E = hc/λ*
*λ is the wavelength, c is the speed of light, and h is Planck's constant. *

*And countless experiments have proven that Quantum Mechanics made the
correct prediction about how much energy a photon will have. If all this
seems very strange that's only because it is, the universe is under no
obligation to be understandable by human beings. *

*John K Clark    See what's on my new list at  Extropolis
<https://groups.google.com/g/extropolis>*

7ow

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