On Thu, Jun 12, 2025 at 4:59 AM Alan Grayson <[email protected]> wrote:

*> When viewing celestial objects, it's routinely claimed that what we
> observe, is how something looked in the past. *
>

*Yes.*

*The farther away it is, the further in the past is what the observation
> reveals.*
>

*Yes.*

*> But now you've turned this on its proverbial head; namely, the redshift
> observed is a measure of its recessional velocity NOW.*
>

*Unless you're talking about very nearby galaxies such as Andromeda, which
is actually blueshifted, cosmic redshift is NOT caused by the recessional
velocity of something moving through space, it is caused by the amount of
expansion of space itself that has occurred during the billions of years
that it took the light to reach us. *


> *>How are these contradictory interpretations resolved? TY, AG *
>

*What contradictory interpretations?  The light from distant galaxies
is always damaged in one way or another, sometimes they run into dust
clouds and only their infrared light makes it through, and sometimes the
images of galaxies are distorted by gravitational lensing. But if we know
there was a dust cloud between us and the galaxy then nobody believes the
galaxy produced no optical or ultraviolet light, and if the light passed
near a massive object then nobody believes the galaxy really had such a
weird shape, we know the distortion was caused by a gravitational lens. *

 *John K Clark    See what's on my new list at  Extropolis
<https://groups.google.com/g/extropolis>*
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