On 6/3/2025 10:05 PM, Alan Grayson wrote:


On Tuesday, June 3, 2025 at 10:46:58 PM UTC-6 Brent Meeker wrote:



    On 6/3/2025 8:53 PM, Alan Grayson wrote:


    On Tuesday, June 3, 2025 at 9:42:30 PM UTC-6 Brent Meeker wrote:



        On 6/3/2025 3:25 PM, Alan Grayson wrote:
        *OK, let's split hairs. If "assumed" means zero evidence for
        a muon's clock, then "inferred" is better IF you believe a
        muon has some structure for defining a clock. OTOH, if a
        muon has no such structure, then it's OK to "assume" the
        existence of the clock. *
        *IF* you *assume* a clock requires some internal structure.
        *But instead of splitting hairs, how about a description of
        the structure of a muon's clock? *
        So you want to /*assume*/ that the muon can't keep time just
        by moving thru spacetime, but requires some structure.  Do
        you have a proof or is this mere surmise?

    *It's a surmise, not a mere surmise, based on clocks I am
    familiar with. You're the relativity expert. You teach the
    masses. What's your concept of time keeping by a muon? AG*

        *And if that clock shows no time dilation within the muon's
        frame of reference, how would that FACT effect its
        half-life? AG*
        I guess that would show that it wasn't /*the*/ clock that
        determines the muon's decay.


    *So what clock does it, if any? AG
    *
    *I don't know.  But it must that something to do with the mass of
    the muon, the electron, and neutrino and the coupling of the
    neutrino, muon, and electron fields since a muon decays into and
    electron and a anti-neutrino.

    Brent*


*I don't see how those factors would effect the muon's half-life. I appreciate your honesty. I suspect the issue I have raised is unsolved, and this is what troubles me about Relativity. AG*
*Why are you troubled by lack of a model.  Inertia is a farm more common phenomenon, but you're untroubled by it.  Why...I suspect because you have lots of experience of inertia.  Well scientists, particularly particle physicists have lots of experience of relativistic time dilation.

Brent*

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