On 6/3/2025 11:00 PM, Alan Grayson wrote:
On Tuesday, June 3, 2025 at 11:33:26 PM UTC-6 Brent Meeker wrote:
On 6/3/2025 10:05 PM, Alan Grayson wrote:
On Tuesday, June 3, 2025 at 10:46:58 PM UTC-6 Brent Meeker wrote:
On 6/3/2025 8:53 PM, Alan Grayson wrote:
On Tuesday, June 3, 2025 at 9:42:30 PM UTC-6 Brent Meeker wrote:
On 6/3/2025 3:25 PM, Alan Grayson wrote:
*OK, let's split hairs. If "assumed" means zero
evidence for a muon's clock, then "inferred" is better
IF you believe a muon has some structure for defining a
clock. OTOH, if a muon has no such structure, then it's
OK to "assume" the existence of the clock. *
*IF* you *assume* a clock requires some internal structure.
*But instead of splitting hairs, how about a
description of the structure of a muon's clock? *
So you want to /*assume*/ that the muon can't keep time
just by moving thru spacetime, but requires some
structure. Do you have a proof or is this mere surmise?
*It's a surmise, not a mere surmise, based on clocks I am
familiar with. You're the relativity expert. You teach the
masses. What's your concept of time keeping by a muon? AG*
*And if that clock shows no time dilation within the
muon's frame of reference, how would that FACT effect
its half-life? AG*
I guess that would show that it wasn't /*the*/ clock
that determines the muon's decay.
*So what clock does it, if any? AG
*
*I don't know. But it must that something to do with the
mass of the muon, the electron, and neutrino and the coupling
of the neutrino, muon, and electron fields since a muon
decays into and electron and a anti-neutrino.
Brent*
*I don't see how those factors would effect the muon's half-life.
I appreciate your honesty. I suspect the issue I have raised is
unsolved, and this is what troubles me about Relativity. AG*
*Why are you troubled by lack of a model. Inertia is a farm more
common phenomenon, but you're untroubled by it. Why...I suspect
because you have lots of experience of inertia. Well scientists,
particularly particle physicists have lots of experience of
relativistic time dilation.
Brent*
*
*
*Why should I be troubled by inertia? It's easily understood. *
Then perhaps you can explain why a muon has about 200x the inertia of an
electron? And why inertia and gravity are always proportional?
Brent
*But the change in half-life of muons is hardly understood, and I am
not going off on some wrong track here. You think it's OK to shut up
and calculate, and sweep the real issue under the proverbial rug. AG*
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