Apparently there's no "corporate" to speak to at Tesla anymore. The dealer said:
*: The vehicle was inspected and verified to have a dead battery, unable to charge or select a geardue to being left discharged for over a month.The issue was caused by the vehicle being left at 0% state of charge for an extended period May 18th 2025 till nowleading to an over- discharged high voltage battery. applied power to vehicle with jumper to get information of High voltage battery foundBMS_brickVoltageMin = 0.71 Voltswhich makes HV battery unrecoverable minimum is 1.8vThe 12V battery and the High voltage will need to be replaced.this will not be covered under warranty due to HV battery being discharged for over a month.* Tesla's software is so bad, that it allowed the vehicle to over-discharge itself? There's no "battery saver mode" where it turns off sentry and goes into a self preservation mode? What if I went to Europe for a Summer? Had an extended medical issue? Rode SMART all summer? Per: https://service.tesla.com/docs/ServiceBulletins/External/CD/CD-21-16-003_Retrieving_HV_Battery_Vitals_R2.pdf Brick V Min is the parameter being discussed above. And that's just the worst case brick, not all bricks. Not a new issue either: *https://theunderstatement.com/post/18030062041/its-a-brick-tesla-motors-devastating-design <https://theunderstatement.com/post/18030062041/its-a-brick-tesla-motors-devastating-design>* *The 340th Tesla Roadster produced went to a customer in Santa Barbara, California. In 2011, he took his Roadster out for a drive and then parked it in a temporary garage while his home was being renovated. Lacking a built-in Tesla charger or a convenient power outlet, he left the car unplugged. Six weeks later his car was dead. It took four men two hours to drag the 2,700-pound Roadster onto a flatbed truck so that it could be shipped to Tesla’s Los Angeles area service center, all at the owner’s expense. A service manager then informed him that “it’s a brick” and that the battery would cost approximately $40,000 to replace. He was further told that this was a special “friends and family” price, strongly implying that Tesla generally charges more.Unfortunately for current and future Tesla owners who encounter this problem, it’s also not covered by normal automobile insurance policies. This makes the situation almost unique in modern car-ownership: a $40,000 or more exposure that cannot be insured. After all, car insurance is designed to protect owners and drivers even when they are neglectful or at fault. The affected customers probably would have been in a better financial situation if they’d accidentally rolled their Teslas off a cliff, as insurance would generally cover much of those costs.* On Wed, Aug 13, 2025 at 7:56 PM Bryce Nesbitt <[email protected]> wrote: > Similarly, I was more than once billed for an amount that was less > than the postage on the letter > for the billing. (e.g. 15 cents in a double thick envelope that cost > 30c + 15c or whatever at the time. > > > On Wed, Aug 13, 2025 at 12:24 PM Lawrence Winiarski via EV > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > I "defaulted" on my mortgage :-) Kind of funny story there. I had > the payments taken right out of my account for years, but I alsopaid extra > and got my house paid off early, but the very very very last payment was > not the usual amount. It was something like only $70 dollars left to pay > off the house and they didn't take it out of my account like the other ones > because it was a different number. So instead of withdrawing the final > amount, they just didn't do anything. I legitimately thought I had paid > it off months ago because they stopped taking money out of my account and I > knew the last payment would have already been taken out. > > So you can imagine my surprise when I got legal documents for a > foreclosure some months later. Not a nice phone call or a reminder or a > nice letter or anything like that, but legal proceedings to get my house > claiming I owed them a whopping $69.47 and so they would be taking my house > or something like that. > > Of course it got paid right away, along with a bunch of choice words to > the lawyers and mortgage company. > > > > > > for us by nature, brutally and without pity - and will leave a ravaged > world. Nobel Laureate Dr. Henry W. Kendall > > > > > > On Wednesday, August 13, 2025 at 10:32:11 AM PDT, Cor van de Water > via EV <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > It is no different than defaulting on a mortgage... > > I helped a neighbor avoiding that trap. > > Cor. > > > > On Wed, Aug 13, 2025, 10:27 AM EV List Lackey via EV <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > On 13 Aug 2025 at 1:18, Bryce Nesbitt via EV wrote: > > > > > > > Looking at a Tesla Model S Performance that was abandoned, towed, > > > > stored, and not cared for. > > > > > > What a world this is. I can't imagine abandoning a $100,000 car. > Maybe > > > some kind of crime was involved. > > > > > > David Roden, EVDL moderator & general lackey > > > > > > To reach me, don't reply to this message; I won't get it. Use my > > > offlist address here : http://evdl.org/help/index.html#supt > > > > > > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > > > > > > My perception of the world changed from the moment I started > reading > > > [Philip] Roth. 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