Pickup trucks, SUVs and even the PT Cruiser are classified as farm vehicles in the US, to get around passenger safety requirements, fuel (in)efficiency and to pay less taxes. Cor.
On Sun, Jul 20, 2025, 5:11 PM EV List Lackey via EV <[email protected]> wrote: > On 20 Jul 2025 at 10:51, John Lussmyer via EV wrote: > > > I assume that the EU doesn't allow ANYTHING like an American Ford > > F-series truck then? > > I haven't checked every EU nation, but here are the trucks that Ford > offers > in France. > > https://www.ford.fr/utilitaires-et-pick-up > > The only pickup is the Ranger. > > Ford's line is similar in the UK. > > I expect that regulations have something to do with it, but it's also > smart > business. Pickups aren't really a thing here. For hauling, mostly it's > vans and trailers. > > > since it appears that having a ADAS that hits the brakes before > > hitting a pedestrian isn't good enough, umm, what is? > > A lower front end, mostly. > > Also, lose the sharp body edges, reduce the weight, and maybe tame the > wild- > west acceleration. > > Obviously I wasn't there, but I doubt that the CT's designers gave any > thought at all to making a vehicle that would comply with EU safety regs. > > > US vehicles the size of the CT just weren't allowed as "cars", > > They're not classified as cars in the US, either, are they? > > > since most non-highway roads out there are too small. > > Yeah, well, they're the right size for the folks who live here. :-) > > The US's blunderbussiest vehicles aren't sold here because who would buy > them? There are city streets where they'd literally get stuck between > buildings. > > Also: fuel cost. A 14mpg Ford F-350 would snarf up 55 US cents per mile > in > fuel alone ($7.75/gallon). > > But, as I said, Europeans don't buy those monsters. There are some large > vans, but they're commercial. EU big cars are what y'all there would call > midsize crossovers. A Tesla Model 3 is classified as a large car (D- > segment). > > In France, 2024's best seller was the Renault Clio. It's a B-segment > supermini. It gets between 39 and 64 mpg, depending on the model. It's a > few inches longer than a Mini Cooper. > > David Roden, EVDL moderator & general lackey > > To reach me, don't reply to this message; I won't get it. Use my > offlist address here : http://evdl.org/help/index.html#supt > > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > > The internet, in its current shape, has brought out the worst parts > of humanity and is hiding the best parts. It's possible [that] the > internet has made us lose our minds. > > -- Sarah Jeong > > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > > _______________________________________________ > Address messages to [email protected] > No other addresses in TO and CC fields > HELP: http://www.evdl.org/help/ > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20250720/3496b0cc/attachment.htm> _______________________________________________ Address messages to [email protected] No other addresses in TO and CC fields HELP: http://www.evdl.org/help/
