Hi David, A minor precision about the terminology from a UK/Europe perspective -
You do indeed need to carry an AC charging cable if you want to use public charging infrastructure. Home chargers do usually have a tethered cable and plug though. These are never referred to as "CCS", but "Type 2". Type 2 refers to the IEC 62196 Type 2 plug - it can carry 3 phase AC up to 22kW. But you can expect a minimum of 7.2kW single phase anywhere. Older cars such as the Leaf therefore carry a "Type 2 to Type 1" cable. Type 1 is the same as J1772, but obviously only used on 230V here. The DC charging connector is ubiquitously known as "CCS", this looks like the Type 2 plug but has the two large DC pins underneath, and as you say, is always attached to the charger equipment with a heavy cable. The format is more correctly called CCS Combo 2. And yes, most people also carry a "granny cable" which is a small cable mounted EVSE with a domestic plug (usually with a temperature sensor inside it to guard against thermal issues) and a type 2 or type 1 plug to connect to the vehicle. These will work perfectly well as your primary means of charging the vehicle at 2.3kW, but it tends to be discouraged. Nobody refers to level 1 or level 2 here but I know what it means from decades of EVDL lurking :) On Tue, Jun 10, 2025 at 4:02 PM EV List Lackey via EV <[email protected]> wrote: > On 9 Jun 2025 at 23:53, Bryce Nesbitt via EV wrote: > > > Many places in Europe the public Level 2 > > chargers have a socket -- you bring your own cable. > > I have not seen any CCS charging points with attached cables. CCS2 DC > chargers do have attached cables, however. > > Thus EU EVs seem to be usually delivered with CCS charging cables. > > You also usually get a "granny" cable. That's good for a 2.5kW charge on > a > normal household socket. Our former neighbor regularly charged his Zoe > that > way. He parked the car on the street in front of the house, and passed > the > cable out the front window. It was fine for the amount of driving he did. > > With the granny cable, you can get 3.7kW on a Green-Up socket. These are > the same pinout as domestic sockets, and are often provided as secondary > connections on CCS level 2 AC charging points. > > David Roden, EVDL moderator & general lackey > > To reach me, don't reply to this message; I won't get it. Use my > offlist address here : http://evdl.org/help/index.html#supt > > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > > A great many people think they are thinking when they are > really rearranging their prejudices. > > -- Edward R Murrow > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > > _______________________________________________ > Address messages to [email protected] > No other addresses in TO and CC fields > HELP: http://www.evdl.org/help/ > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20250610/b0f16d11/attachment.htm> _______________________________________________ Address messages to [email protected] No other addresses in TO and CC fields HELP: http://www.evdl.org/help/
