Yeah.. about FSD (full self driving). The emperor has no cloths...
they are hiring remote drivers.

https://gizmodo.com/tesla-is-looking-to-hire-a-team-to-remotely-control-its-self-driving-robotaxis-2000530600

On Sun, Dec 1, 2024 at 10:23 AM Peri Hartman via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote:
>
> Actually, I think Musk is simply tired of EVs. His company knows how to
> make them. Some other manufactures are successful at this point. Not
> much glamor left. But, talk about FSD, that's another thing.
>
> Peri
>
> << Annoyed by leaf blowers ? https://quietcleanseattle.org/ >>
>
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> From: "EV List Lackey via EV" <ev@lists.evdl.org>
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> Sent: 30-Nov-24 17:49:42
> Subject: Re: [EVDL] Anti-Elon bumper sticker business gives insights
> into Tesla owners turning against him
>
> >On 30 Nov 2024 at 23:38, Lawrence Rhodes via EV wrote:
> >
> >>   Nobody didn't buy Ford vehicles because Henry Ford was a Nazi or 
> >> brutalized
> >>   employees.
> >
> >I don't think you can say "nobody." As a matter of fact, there WERE boycotts
> >against Ford.  I remember reading about some that were promoted by the
> >magazine American Jew.
> >
> >How successful they were I don't know, but supposedly Will Rogers once said
> >"[The Ford boycott] may not be a complete success yet, but it will be as
> >soon as someone learns how to make a cheaper car."
> >
> >What's great is that, at least for the moment, Tesla isn't the only EV game
> >around.  You can have an EV without giving Musk your cash.
> >
> >That might not last, though.  Musk seems to be trying to push the other
> >automakers out of selling EVs in the US.  With his buddy in the White House,
> >he just might succeed.
> >
> >Wait, didn't Tesla offer to help other EV makers 10 years ago?
> >
> >Yeah, here it is.  Musk in 2014: "Tesla Motors was created to accelerate the
> >advent of sustainable transport.  If we clear a path to the creation of
> >compelling electric vehicles, but then lay intellectual property landmines
> >behind us to inhibit others, we are acting in a manner contrary to that
> >goal."
> >
> >Money changed his mind, I guess.
> >
> >David Roden, EVDL moderator & general lackey
> >
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