Hi Josh and All, Hub motors are bad for 2 reasons, they have little start up torque and to make up for they require heavy powerful motors. They are great in non suspension Ebikes, etc where it can be much smaller as gets help with a leg push/pedal for starting up.As a lightweight EVer I was wondering how bad the unsprung weight would be with the Aptera. Indications came from a Jay Leno drive vid in one the fixed camera showed it to be noticeable to me but not bad. I'd keep it on smoother roads when possible as I do with my light EVs.I'd suggest a good seat, it shouldn't be a problem. Too bad they went complicated when the original design with a geared rear motor instead it would cost much less to build and better handling, more starting power could be in production.Jerry Dycus On Sunday, July 9, 2023 at 10:37:54 PM PDT, Josh Landess via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote: I hadn't noticed that they were using the hub motors, thanks for pointing this up. I will be a bit more cautious before I consider getting one, though I'll still keep open the possibility. On top of the other risks they seem to be asking from their pioneer first customers, that one seems like a notable one.
On 7/9/2023 5:14 PM, Alan Arrison via EV wrote: > Thanks for those informative videos. It still isn't real world data. > > There is a reason nobody is using wheel motors on highway capable > vehicles. > > > On 7/8/2023 8:51 PM, Ryan Fulcher wrote: >> So this? >> https://youtu.be/CqPMtEIT3f4 >> >> Or this: >> https://youtu.be/1alRUqx9UX8 >> >> >> On Sat, Jul 8, 2023, 17:46 Alan Arrison via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> >> wrote: >> >> I was excited about the Aptera until I saw the hub motors. >> >> I'll pass until I see some real world reliability demonstrated. >> > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20230709/03646ce3/attachment.htm> > _______________________________________________ > Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org > No other addresses in TO and CC fields > HELP: http://www.evdl.org/help/ > _______________________________________________ Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org No other addresses in TO and CC fields HELP: http://www.evdl.org/help/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20230711/de51da88/attachment.htm> _______________________________________________ Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org No other addresses in TO and CC fields HELP: http://www.evdl.org/help/