On 5/23/2023 3:25 AM, EV List Lackey via EV wrote:
On 22 May 2023 at 21:30, Josh Landess via EV wrote:
Tesla had replaced it
under warranty with a 90 (they don't make 70 any more) that they had
locked to 70.
This is one of the things that infuriates me about Tesla. The idea of
making a capable product, then artificially and deliberately limiting it
with your hand out for more money, seems somehow immoral to me.
I wouldn't buy a BMW with their infamous seat warmer subscription, either.
I think such corporations deserve a few "moneylenders in the temple" slaps.
I hate crippleware software, too. I'm a FLOSS kinda guy.
In fact for decades I've wished for an "open source" EV, and/or one offered
by a nonprofit company.
It doesn't bother me. In fact, I think Tesla would have been out of
business a long time ago if they had followed give-it-away business
practices of the sort you describe. They were quite correct to replace
this guy's battery, and he was delighted with the change in charging
speed. I don't know if they gave him the option to pay a price to
upgrade to 90 kWh.
Bottom line, I'd be ok to say yes now to upgrading (at about $22k):
- if I could get a refreshed straight answer from Tesla as to how much
it costs (surprisingly difficult) and what I get for the money
- if there was not an occasional concern about trustworthiness of the
automaker (but I suppose this goes for others too)
- if the CEO was not taking so many morally questionable positions.
Wow! You must really like your Tesla. For $22,000 you can almost buy an
entire other-make brand new EV with zero miles on it. Heck, if you wre in
the EU you could get one for less than $22k, but it wouldn't have the range
you're used to.
And I'd just about bet that $22k would get you a pretty nice lightly-used
much newer EV of a different brand.
First, to be clear, I'm not going back to ICV, nor back to PHEV, nor
back to short-range BEV.
Second, I like having high-quality electric transportation that is a
very modest cost to keep going. If this were a gasoline car
conversation, I might as well have the pink slip, and a free pass on a
large portion of my fuel, on a used but good condition BMW 5 series or
Cadillac Blackwing or some other very desirable vehicle, but with a
significant problem on long distance interstate cruising. It's a
problem that can be fixed at a very high price, but am I supposed to
give that up for a used Accord? Maybe, maybe not.
I calculate it would cost me, net, about $25k-$40k (which I do not have)
to get out of the Tesla and into something that has the qualities I
would want, and this does not take into account what I would lose in
possible future market increased value of vehicles equipped with free
supercharging.
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David Roden, EVDL moderator & general lackey
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