On 5/23/2023 3:25 AM, EV List Lackey via EV wrote:
On 22 May 2023 at 21:30, Josh Landess via EV wrote:
Tesla had replaced it
under warranty with a 90 (they don't make 70 any more) that they had
locked to 70.
This is one of the things that infuriates me about Tesla.  The idea of
making a capable product, then artificially and deliberately limiting it
with your hand out for more money, seems somehow immoral to me.

I wouldn't buy a BMW with their infamous seat warmer subscription, either.

I think such corporations deserve a few "moneylenders in the temple" slaps.

I hate crippleware software, too.  I'm a FLOSS kinda guy.

In fact for decades I've wished for an "open source" EV, and/or one offered
by a nonprofit company.

It doesn't bother me.  In fact, I think Tesla would have been out of business a long time ago if they had followed give-it-away business practices of the sort you describe.  They were quite correct to replace this guy's battery, and he was delighted with the change in charging speed.  I don't know if they gave him the option to pay a price to upgrade to 90 kWh.

Bottom line, I'd be ok to say yes now to upgrading (at about $22k):
- if I could get a refreshed straight answer from Tesla as to how much
it costs (surprisingly difficult) and what I get for the money
- if there was not an occasional concern about trustworthiness of the
automaker (but I suppose this goes for others too)
- if the CEO was not taking so many morally questionable positions.
Wow!  You must really like your Tesla.  For $22,000 you can almost buy an
entire other-make brand new EV with zero miles on it. Heck, if you wre in
the EU you could get one for less than $22k, but it wouldn't have the range
you're used to.

And I'd just about bet that $22k would get you a pretty nice lightly-used
much newer EV of a different brand.

First, to be clear, I'm not going back to ICV, nor back to PHEV, nor back to short-range BEV.

Second, I like having high-quality electric transportation that is a very modest cost to keep going.  If this were a gasoline car conversation, I might as well have the pink slip, and a free pass on a large portion of my fuel, on a used but good condition BMW 5 series or Cadillac Blackwing or some other very desirable vehicle, but with a significant problem on long distance interstate cruising.  It's a problem that can be fixed at a very high price, but am I supposed to give that up for a used Accord?  Maybe, maybe not.

I calculate it would cost me, net, about $25k-$40k (which I do not have) to get out of the Tesla and into something that has the qualities I would want, and this does not take into account what I would lose in possible future market increased value of vehicles equipped with free supercharging.






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