google ducks-back-curve.
Battery storage is max value for about 2 hrs a day during the
evening demand as solar shuts down and baseload power ramps up.

When the grid pays battery owners their actual rate during that peak need,
a battery system can completely pay for itself in about 2 yeard.
bob

On Wed, Sep 1, 2021 at 12:53 PM Willie via EV <[email protected]> wrote:
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>
> On 9/1/21 10:20 AM, Peri Hartman via EV wrote:
> > It could be that the grid can't handle any significant generation of
> > PV energy. If it could, economics would dictate that excess PV energy
> > would be sold, not shut down.
> >
> > The other possibility is this will produce an incentive to create
> > hydrogen storage for excess PV energy. In my opinion, that's an
> > excellent use for electrolysis plus either hydrogen turbines or fuel
> > cells. Note, for this application, the hydrogen does not need to be
> > compressed.
>
>
> Speaking without great familiarity with storage costs, I think short
> term battery storage is most likely to solve the problem. Battery stored
> energy can get to the grid for only about a 20% loss while hydrogen, as
> I understand, will be FAR less efficient.
>
> Typically, over production of either wind or PV can be managed with
> storage of well under 24 hours.  We can look forward to continued
> battery cost reductions, especially from Tesla.
>
> For longer term storage, hydrogen might find a niche.
>
>
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