Michael, I don't follow you. If, for example, southern cali has excess
PV generation, it will need to ship that energy somewhere pretty far
away, say oregon or washington. That would require a pretty substantial
transmission line. I don't think the existing lines are sufficient. The
market is there but the infrastructure is not, so they shut down the
PVs.
Peri
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------ Original Message ------
From: "Michael Ross" <[email protected]>
To: "Peri Hartman" <[email protected]>; "Electric Vehicle Discussion
List" <[email protected]>
Sent: 01-Sep-21 08:40:44
Subject: Re: [EVDL] LIVE stream 8/31/21 1540 PST A physicist consultant
to power utilities on how the EV mass adoption is affecting the
"that the grid can't handle" is just another example of market
distortion. It is a choice of the market, not to say "the grid can't
handle so much generation of non-RE."
There is a lag in response of the market when you build a gas plant or
a nuke that can't be turned down when the cost leans toward RE. A
decades long distortion.
Again the consumer pays. Because this lost flexibility is cooked in The
gain of economy of scale a maybe archaic large generation facility has
a hidden cost of preventing cleaner less costly, more flexible, but
weirdly time constrained RE generation.
I think H2 might be useful as a storage medium. Lots of inefficiency,
but on a large scale it has merit. Better than turning down or shutting
off a clean cheap generation means.
On Wed, Sep 1, 2021, 10:22 AM Peri Hartman via EV <[email protected]>
wrote:
It could be that the grid can't handle any significant generation of
PV
energy. If it could, economics would dictate that excess PV energy
would
be sold, not shut down.
The other possibility is this will produce an incentive to create
hydrogen storage for excess PV energy. In my opinion, that's an
excellent use for electrolysis plus either hydrogen turbines or fuel
cells. Note, for this application, the hydrogen does not need to be
compressed.
Peri
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