I think the real argument, at least in this case, is based on loss of
revenue. If you get some of your power from solar, you aren't paying as
much to the utility. But, they still need to maintain the same capacity,
for the days when your solar doesn't produce. So, their costs stay the
same (or increase, with inflation) but their revenue goes down.
Clearly, that's insignificant for a small percent of solar
installations. And, whether it really makes a difference on their bottom
line depends on the utility. Look at PG&E, for example.
In the long run, once the nuc can be permanently shut down, there really
is the problem of "spinning" reserve. We have time to deal with that.
And, of course, Musk's new batteries are going to solve that :)
Peri
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------ Original Message ------
From: "Robert Bruninga via EV" <ev@lists.evdl.org>
To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" <ev@lists.evdl.org>
Cc: "Robert Bruninga" <bruni...@usna.edu>
Sent: 29-May-20 9:36:40 AM
Subject: Re: [EVDL] : V2g for DIY EV's (economics)
No, less.
Around here, maybe 35% of our electricity comes from Nuclear. BUT the
nuclear plant can go down sometimes too (almost instantly), so the local
utility has to have enough SPINNING RESRVE to equal the largest unit (of
2) of the nuclear plant (900 MW). That amount of existing spinning
reserve is orders of magnitude greater than what they need for solar and
wind (in Maryland)...
So the "spinning reserve" argument against renewables is just
misinformation spewed by fossil fuel shills and greedy utilities.
Bob
-----Original Message-----
From: EV <ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org> On Behalf Of Lee Hart via EV
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2020 8:50 PM
To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List <ev@lists.evdl.org>
Cc: Lee Hart <leeah...@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [EVDL] : V2g for DIY EV's (economics)
Mark Abramowitz via EV wrote:
Without energy storage, you actually need *more* energy infrastructure.
Yes... But they already *have* the infrastructure. The utilities want to
keep getting money for it. Never mind that it was paid off decades ago.
Sort of like wanting to keep driving your old car because the loan is all
paid off.
The old monopolies are having a hard time dealing with new technologies
that break out of the old limits (PV and wind replacing grid power,
cellphones replacing wired phones, internet streaming replacing cable TV,
etc.)
Lee Hart
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When something bad happens, you have three choices: You can let it define
you; let it destroy you; or you can let it strengthen you.
-- Theodor Seuss Geisel
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