No one needs to pay the greedy utility for it.  When my solar arrays are
producing during the day, that is also the PEAK grid load where the
utilites are buying their power from other sources at the highest rate.
But they pay me (in kWh) at the going average rate.  Then at night when I
ask for it back, they are generating it at their lowest cost, probably 1/2
to 1/3rd as much and yet I still pay the average going rate.  No matter
how you think about it, they are making money off of me by buying my
energy low and selling it high.

That is not unfair to them.  And it is fair to me for the privlidge.

Plus it saves them having to add more infrastructure to meet the growing
demand, since our solar arrays are providing that peak load.

Bob

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Subject: Re: [EVDL] : V2g for DIY EV's (economics)

On 28 May 2020 at 15:52, Peri Hartman via EV wrote:

> But to be fair, there is a cost to the utility company since they get
> less revenue but still must maintain the same level of infrastructure.
> Surely there's a better and fair way to do this.

This is where subsidies come in.  If a utility agrees to buy back homemade
energy at full retail from homeowners with documented RE sources, then
either the state or federal government should pay them for doing it.  That
will encourage further RE adoption, reducing pollution and improving our
energy independence.

No doubt the utilities  will overstate their expenses and make a profit on
it.  That's what they do.  So it goes. Do it anyway.  This is a public
good.
It's the sort of thing that we pay taxes for.  Use them.

Not that I think this will actually ever happen in the US, given our
politics and priorities.  Our governments are only allowed to subsidize
traditional dirty energy producers. And are they ever generous about that
kind of welfare!  But we can dream.

David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA
EVDL Administrator

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