For those interested, here is a slightly more detailed write-up of my solar 
power system at home. 

The supplier for my system is Electriq.  They provided a Darfon(Panasonic) 
charger/inverter and the Panasonic batteries. I believe the battery cells are 
similar to the ones used by Tesla, but am not sure. 

The inverter itself runs at 48v (nominal).  I have six sets of 48v batteries 
wired in parallel to the charger/inverter input. Each of the individual units 
of the six pack is rated around 3 kWh, but in practice they are kept to about 
2.5 kWh by limiting how far up and down they can go while charging and 
discharging in order to maintain the health of the overall battery system.  
Thus gives me around 15 kWh at about 48 volts for the battery. 

The solar array is two strings of six panels, for about 2kW (@240v) for each of 
the two strings, making it a 4kW (nominal) system. Depending on the sky clarity 
and temperature, I’ve seen the array put out up to 5kW for brief periods of 
time. More normal to see it around 3.8 or so kW. If I had to do it again, I’d 
have two strings of 7 panels to make the MPPT more robust.  But putting up two 
more panels and this point would only add to the amount of ‘credit’ I’ll lose 
at the end of the year, so I’ll take the efficiency hit. 

As it is, the voltage of six panels is on the edge of being able to use 
inverter-based MPPT or not, depending on how much sun they are getting. 
Generally the voltage is just a little bit (1 or 2 volts) too low to work 
consistently. With an extra panel in the string, it would normally be in MPPT 
mode.  Unfortunately, I can’t simply combine the 12 panels into one string, 
because even though the voltage would be very good, the total power is higher 
than the inverter can handle on a single string (3.7kW max per string). 

The inverter is rated at about 5.7(?) kW continuous, but will peak higher for 
certain brief periods. I saw it around 8kW once when I plugged in my EV without 
first checking the charge amp limit, and it handled it gracefully. 

I will be charging the Kona tomorrow because I drove it about 50 miles this 
evening. I’ll plug it in around 10:30 am after the house battery has finished 
charging. Depending on how sunny it is, and if it is warm enough that I want to 
turn on The A/C in the house (not likely), I’ll set the car charge amps 
somewhere between 10 and 20 amps (@240v). 

Tom Keenan

> On May 28, 2020, at 7:11 PM, Willie via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote:
> 
> Thomas's post didn't make it to me.  I'm pleased to see it completely quoted 
> here.
> 
>> On 5/28/20 8:09 PM, Alan Arrison via EV wrote:
>> Tom, could you give some specifics on this system, or point us to a web page?
>> What battery? What inverter?
>> Thanks, Al
>>> On 5/28/2020 1:24 PM, Thomas Keenan via EV wrote:
>>> Where I live, the local utility has some odd rules, but I do get credited 
>>> $0.06968 for each kWh given back to the grid.  I have a permitted 4 kW 
>>> array that feeds a Darfon/Panasonic inverter/charger for a 15kWh (useable) 
>>> battery that was commissioned in January.  The battery covers times when 
>>> the panels aren’t putting out enough to power the house, such as overnight. 
>>>  Overnight, the house uses two or three kWh that comes from the battery.  
>>> In the morning the battery recharges, and is typically done charging around 
>>> 10:30 in the AM.  After that, any excess is sold.
>>> 
>>> This inverter/battery setup has been working very well.  The battery has 
>>> not been below about 50% so far, and that was during a three-day rain event 
>>> where the system wasn’t producing much.  Aside from those (somewhat rare) 
>>> rain events, I generally have around 10-20 kWh excess that is sold back to 
>>> the grid daily.
> 
> This is much the same as my PowerWall set up which has been running about 15 
> months.  The PW allows me to avoid all electricity  purchases. But the PW 
> cost can not be justified by the savings.
> 
> I sell over production for $.0645/kwh and buy at about $.10.  The PW allows 
> me to not buy about 10kwh each night.  So, my daily savings from using the PW 
> is only about 10 x ($.10-$.0645) or less than $.50/day.  I don't buy the 
> 10kwh at night but I have to use 10kwh during the day to charge the battery 
> and thus do not sell that 10kwh.  The PW cost $13k. I justify that cost with 
> grid down security.
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