I disagree with that approach, but not because of subsidies.

The problem is there is no incentive with that approach to build energy storage. Without storage, we still need most of the existing energy infrastructure, to account for periods when no one is producing. (Ok, I'm exaggerating a bit.) And, if that infrastructure needs to be maintained, it costs. That would ensure the subsidies go on indefinitely, to some degree. Plus it still doesn't remove our dependence on fossil fuels.

If we design an incentive program that includes a build-out of storage, then it could work.

Peri

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On 28 May 2020 at 15:52, Peri Hartman via EV wrote:

 But to be fair, there is a cost to the utility
 company since they get less revenue but still must maintain the same
 level of infrastructure. Surely there's a better and fair way to do
 this.

This is where subsidies come in.  If a utility agrees to buy back homemade
energy at full retail from homeowners with documented RE sources, then
either the state or federal government should pay them for doing it.  That
will encourage further RE adoption, reducing pollution and improving our
energy independence.

No doubt the utilities  will overstate their expenses and make a profit on
it.  That's what they do.  So it goes. Do it anyway.  This is a public good.
It's the sort of thing that we pay taxes for.  Use them.

Not that I think this will actually ever happen in the US, given our
politics and priorities.  Our governments are only allowed to subsidize
traditional dirty energy producers. And are they ever generous about that
kind of welfare!  But we can dream.

David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA
EVDL Administrator

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