The range problem definitely does exist. How are you going to get rid of ICE vehicles for long range travel if you can only go 100 miles or so per charge? Even 200 miles.

This has nothing to do with the vehicle you might use for everyday commuting and errands. Yes, 100 miles is almost always plenty for that. And, yes, you can rent something if you want to go long range.

But we're talking about getting ICE vehicles off the road. That long range vehicle needs to go 300-400 miles on a charge to be practical. Some have to be built and there needs to be high wattage charging stations along the interstates and major highways. And, another factor, if only a small percentage are built, economy of scale won't work and they will be quite expensive.

Peri

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From: "Mike Beem via EV" <[email protected]>
To: "EVDL Administrator" <[email protected]>; "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" <[email protected]>
Sent: 13-May-16 2:06:31 PM
Subject: Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Prof. Clare Grey defending her LiO2 (fluffy carbon) battery paper

 They are trying to solve a problem that doesn't exist.

Most of us on the EVDL have been saying this for years -- that 100 miles of
range is plenty for almost anyone.

Well stated, both of you! I definitely am ready for that 100 mile range, having over the years never had more than my current 40 mile range pack. However, it still does carry me for more than 95% of the miles I drive most
months. I do have a 3/4 ton diesel pick up truck for pulling my dump
trailer, and hauling any any loads too heavy, large or messy for the EV
Escort, but with its roof rack I have carried ladders, lumber etc. for much of what I do; and the truck generally gets driven less than 500 mile per year, so its contribution to ICE pollution is as minimal as I can make it. Having now sold off or given away all of my remaining EV projects, I know
that I am probably driving my last home made EV, but it still has 5 1/2
years to go to finish my experiment=can I drive a conversion EV on one
lithium pack with a total investment of $10000 for 10 years? (not including
tires or brakes).
Time will tell, but so far, I have seen no degradation in range or power.
Michael B

On Fri, May 13, 2016 at 1:45 PM, EVDL Administrator via EV <
[email protected]> wrote:

 On 13 May 2016 at 6:31, dovepa via EV wrote:

 > They are trying to solve a problem that doesn't exist.

Most of us on the EVDL have been saying this for years -- that 100 miles of
 range is plenty for almost anyone.

It's true, but outside of EV hobbyists, hardly anyone believes it. The
 public perception is that they need range close to what they get on a
 tankful of gasoline now.

We know that "range anxiety" is a myth. But "journalists" keep hammering
 at
 it, and the public buys it.  So to them, it's real.

 We can educate these folks until we drop from exhaustion and it won't
 change
more than a couple of their minds. We can even have them track their
 weekly mileage.  It makes no difference.

Vehicle buyers demand long range, just in case they ever need it. It's the same attitude that makes people buy huge pickup trucks and drive their clunky, awkward 18-mpg beasts year in and year out, even if they only haul
 something big once a year (or less).

 Perception is reality.  It doesn't pay to fight it.  What does pay is
 asking
people who actually buy vehicles what they need, listening to them, and
 then
 building and offering for sale an EV that meets those perceived
 requirements
 and needs, whether they're real needs or not.

 David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA
 EVDL Administrator

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