Hi Oshiro and all,

Hey,why do I like this title more?LOL

In order to measure up with that title,I googled a little 'Belgian
beer' and found some brands I was familiar with:

http://www.beer-pages.com/stories/belgian-beer-guide.htm

I was wrong yesterday because in one of my books,one wine connaisseuse
said there were over 500 kinds of Belgian beers!

On one label of a brand,you will see a pink elephant.
According to the author,if one should get that drunk,he/she will see a
pink elephant!
I haven't experienced it yet.
I guess we'll wait for you to tell us after your return!LOL

Do some Europeans drink beer in room temperature?
I didn't know it.Most of the Europeans I know drink cold beer from the
fridge(without ice cubes).

How cold can it be in Sao Paolo in your winter/our summer?
It's autumn at the end of October,and it shouldn't be that cold yet
provided everywhere you go in Europe then,there are radiators/heaters
on indoors.
All you need is prabably a thick long coat,a scarf,a pair of gloves
and a pair of warmer boots.If it snows earlier this year,then you'll
need to pack more clothes...
We'll see then.

By the way,Charles,I read your today's message.
If I don't have enough time to reply to you today,I'll do it
tomorrow.;)

Nice day,everyone!
Pln

On Jun 30, 3:15 pm, Rafael Oshiro <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi Pln, the beer advicer!!! LOL
>
> Fortunately you gave me some very good information about this Michael
> Jackson's beer companion. I actually didn't know there was another famous
> king :)
>
> These fruited-beers sounds to me as being a little sweet, am I right? I
> surely will taste many kinds of beverage there, it doens't mean I'm going to
> be drunk, maybe a little high :)
> Here in Brazil I believe we don't have well known ale beers, the most commom
> one here is pilsen and we drink always very cold. I heard in some countries
> in Europe they drink them in environmental temperature.
>
> I and my girlfriend are going togheter to Paris and Brussels, and we going
> to Europe in the end of October. We've been planning our itinerary and our
> great challenge is going to be the low temperature of this season, provided
> that we are not used to it.
> You have a point, Paris must be the dream destination of women, very
> different from our culture.
>
> Thanks for the tips!
>
> Have a nice day
> Oshiro
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 5:51 AM, pln471 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Hi Oshiro and all,
>
> > Coincidentally,I found one among piles of books of my husband's to be
> > put away on the shelves:
> > 'Michael Jackson's Beer Companion'.(this 'Michael Jackson' is an
> > authority figure when it comes to beverages,not that King of Pop who
> > just passed away)
>
> > Let me quote some parts for the curious Oshiro(if you were named
> > George,it would sound even betterLOL):
> > 'A beer made with fruit sounds like a contradiction.
> > Surely is it a wine?
> > The explanation is that these are beers,produced from grain,with fruit
> > added as a further fermentable material or flavouring.
> > They are traditional in Belgium,where they are often based on lambic
> > beers,and usually  made with cherries or raspberries.
> > Inspired by the success of these products in recent years,other fruits
> > and more countries have made an entrance.
>
> > The best of Belgium's artisan-made,lambic-based,whole-fruit cherry
> > kriek and raspberry frambozen beers have a complexity and delicacy,and
> > are dry.
> > They are the beer world's elegant response to pink champagne,and make
> > a pretty,unusual and appetizing drink with which to welcome guests at
> > a barbecue or summer party...'
>
> > Just check out the beer menus when you go to any pubs there.There are
> > over 365 kinds of beers to choose from!
> > I remember my husband couldn't even resist on trying them during
> > breakfast considering so short time for so many beers!LOL
>
> > As for the ales you're fond of,you can also try out Belgian ale there.
> > Belgians call ales 'speciales belges' or just 'belges',particularly in
> > the French-speaking regions of Belgium.
> > According to M.J.,try 'Vieux Temps'(it means Old Time),Horse
> > Ale,Lamot,Op-Ale and Palm.
>
> > On second thought,you should take your girlfriend to Paris because it
> > seems to be every woman's dream destination,and it's a bigger contrast
> > to your culture or Barcelona,isn't it?
>
> > When are your coming to Europe?;)
>
> > Nice day,everyone!
> > Pln
>
> > On Jun 29, 5:29 am, Rafael Oshiro <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > Hi Pln and all
>
> > > Nice to see you here again!!! :)
> > > I hope you are having a good time in your new flat!
>
> > > Yeah, I agree that just one week to visit 2 cities is going to be quite
> > > busy, but at that time, I won't be able to take more days off my work.
> > > I'm really excited about going there, and I'm happy to know that you
> > enjoyed
> > > Brussels. I'm looking forward to try many kinds of beers, I'll really
> > enjoy
> > > that!!! LOL
> > > I've been reading some information about there and they say much about
> > > chocolate, waffle and beer!! They must have such a good gastronomy!! My
> > > favorite kind of beer is Ale, a red beer. You got me curious about the
> > > cherry one.
>
> > > Thanks for the valuable tips, Pln!!! They were really good!
>
> > > Oshiro
>
> > > On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 12:08 PM, pln471 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > Hi Oshiro and all,
>
> > > > It took me some time to finally find this message I was about to reply
> > > > to before our move to the new flat!
>
> > > > One week to pay visits to 2-3 cities is quite a busy schedule.I've
> > > > never been to Paris,but Brussels is a place I highly recommend!;)
> > > > Try as many different beers as possible.My favourite is the cherry
> > > > one!
>
> > > > Barcelona is another place I'd like to revisit!If you could,I'd
> > > > recommend you to go there instead of Paris.
>
> > > > Too short time left for me to write more...
> > > > I'll come back next Monday to catch up with you guys again!
>
> > > > Nice weekend to you and your girlfriend and to all of us!
>
> > > > Pln
>
> > > > On Jun 9, 3:47 pm, Rafael Oshiro <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > Hi Pln, Charles, John, Josney and all!!
>
> > > > > I've been reading all these messages about traveling and studing in
> > > > Europe.
> > > > > Indeed Europe fascinates me a lot.
> > > > > I've just scheduled my first trip to Europe (and I hope this is the
> > first
> > > > of
> > > > > many others in the future). I'm very excited and I have to start
> > doing my
> > > > > itinerary!! Can you help me giving tips what places I should visit?
> > As
> > > > soon
> > > > > I know some of you in the group have already been in Europe.
>
> > > > > I'm going to Paris and Brussels with my girlfriend. This is not a
> > long
> > > > trip,
> > > > > just one week!
>
> > > > > Pln, I agree with what you said about traveling as a backpacker!! I
> > > > prefer
> > > > > traveling without a prepared itinerary by travel agencies, since I
> > > > prepared
> > > > > my route in advance.
>
> > > > > In my opinion, I see Europe as an old and beautiful World, where many
> > > > > important facts happened there and because of this, there are many
> > > > > historical places to go.
>
> > > > > Nice day for you all
> > > > > Oshiro
>
> > > > > On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 7:28 AM, Charles <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > Hi pln,
> > > > > > Certainly,what I post was not mischievious message.LOL
>
> > > > > > It's just for fun.The symbol"LOL"makes my smile in that busy
> > > > > > day."mischievious" means intended to cause harm or
> > > > > > trouble,which absolutely wasn't what I mean few days before.
>
> > > > > > You know,the picture in my mind when I saw "LOL" is a little girl
> > > > treated
> > > > > > badly by others weep here.^_^
>
> > > > > > On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 1:51 PM, John Awesome <
> > [email protected]
> > > > >wrote:
>
> > > > > >> hehe, sorry for that. I'v been chatting with guys from all over
> > the
> > > > world,
> > > > > >> and i really enjoy  the relaxation topics, such culture,
> > languages,
> > > > > >> behaviours. and i think serious topics will bring much offense,
> > > > besides, my
> > > > > >> english words about politcs are limited, so i have to learn it
> > well,
> > > > then i
> > > > > >> can use them in the conversation.
>
> > > > > >> PS: I notice the "I hear and I forget.
> > > > > >> I see and I believe.
> > > > > >> I do and I understand.
> > > > > >> Confucius (551 BC - 479 BC)."
>
> > > > > >> I don't know much about chinese claasic work in the english
> > version,
> > > > but
> > > > > >> in chinese original work, the sentence was came form Xun Zi. As
> > you
> > > > can see
> > > > > >> it belowhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xun_Zi
> > > > > >> but maybe i am wrong, you know chinese classic work in chinese
> > version
> > > > are
> > > > > >> really difficute to read, most of them were written about 2000
> > years
> > > > ago,
> > > > > >> the difference is quite large. for example, the ancient greek and
> > > > eygpt
> > > > > >> words cannot be identify by us easily as well.
>
> > > > > >> On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 5:28 AM, pln471 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > >>> Hi Josney and all,
>
> > > > > >>> Are you trying to scare John and Charles away?!LOL
>
> > > > > >>> I've been enjoying exchanging messages with them via this message
> > > > > >>> board!
> > > > > >>> I really do!;)
> > > > > >>> Unless others have something to complain about,then speak
> > up,please!
> > > > > >>> LOL
>
> > > > > >>> Since we finally got you respond to us,I would say it's Mission
> > > > > >>> Accomplished in some ways!
>
> > > > > >>> Best wishes to you and the rest of busy,lazy or dreamy eslpodcast
> > > > > >>> members!LOL
>
> > > > > >>> Good night,
> > > > > >>> Pln
>
> > > > > >>> On Jun 7, 6:21 pm, Josney Ribeiro <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> > > > > >>> > I think you guys write too much... hahaha I just don't have
> > time to
> > > > > >>> reply to
> > > > > >>> > the interesting messages. I can only make short replies. I
> > don't
> > > > like
> > > > > >>> it. I
> > > > > >>> > wish I had time to post more thoughtful messages. Wishing you
> > all
> > > > the
> > > > > >>> best,
> > > > > >>> > Josney
>
> > > > > >>> > 2009/6/7 pln471 <[email protected]>
>
> > > > > >>> > > Hi John Charles and all,
>
> > > > > >>> > > Oh,boy,Charles!LOL
> > > > > >>> > > You sound just like another curious cat to me counting how
> > many
> > > > 'LOL'
> > > > > >>> > > in my previous post,aren't you?;)
>
> > > > > >>> > > It's just coincidental,of course!
> > > > > >>> > > But after reading your mischievious message dated
> > Saturday,June
> > > > 6th,I
> > > > > >>> > > recalled that there were 3 sixes in the calendar!!!
> > > > > >>> > > According to Western superstition,3 sixes is a symbol of
> > Satan or
> > > > > >>> > > something like that,isn't it?!:(
> > > > > >>> > > And what's interesting is that 6 is a lucky number for
> > > > Chinese,isn't
> > > > > >>> > > it?
>
> > > > > >>> > > OK.I've used 3 tag questions so far...Is it a bad sign
> > again?!LOL
>
> > > > > >>> > > And John,you sound quite different from other young Chinese
> > or
> > > > > >>> > > Taiwanese I've known.
> > > > > >>> > > You have more in common with me sharing the same attitude or
> > view
>
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>
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