Hi Oshiro and all, It took me some time to finally find this message I was about to reply to before our move to the new flat!
One week to pay visits to 2-3 cities is quite a busy schedule.I've never been to Paris,but Brussels is a place I highly recommend!;) Try as many different beers as possible.My favourite is the cherry one! Barcelona is another place I'd like to revisit!If you could,I'd recommend you to go there instead of Paris. Too short time left for me to write more... I'll come back next Monday to catch up with you guys again! Nice weekend to you and your girlfriend and to all of us! Pln On Jun 9, 3:47 pm, Rafael Oshiro <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Pln, Charles, John, Josney and all!! > > I've been reading all these messages about traveling and studing in Europe. > Indeed Europe fascinates me a lot. > I've just scheduled my first trip to Europe (and I hope this is the first of > many others in the future). I'm very excited and I have to start doing my > itinerary!! Can you help me giving tips what places I should visit? As soon > I know some of you in the group have already been in Europe. > > I'm going to Paris and Brussels with my girlfriend. This is not a long trip, > just one week! > > Pln, I agree with what you said about traveling as a backpacker!! I prefer > traveling without a prepared itinerary by travel agencies, since I prepared > my route in advance. > > In my opinion, I see Europe as an old and beautiful World, where many > important facts happened there and because of this, there are many > historical places to go. > > Nice day for you all > Oshiro > > > > On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 7:28 AM, Charles <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi pln, > > Certainly,what I post was not mischievious message.LOL > > > It's just for fun.The symbol"LOL"makes my smile in that busy > > day."mischievious" means intended to cause harm or > > trouble,which absolutely wasn't what I mean few days before. > > > You know,the picture in my mind when I saw "LOL" is a little girl treated > > badly by others weep here.^_^ > > > On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 1:51 PM, John Awesome <[email protected]>wrote: > > >> hehe, sorry for that. I'v been chatting with guys from all over the world, > >> and i really enjoy the relaxation topics, such culture, languages, > >> behaviours. and i think serious topics will bring much offense, besides, my > >> english words about politcs are limited, so i have to learn it well, then i > >> can use them in the conversation. > > >> PS: I notice the "I hear and I forget. > >> I see and I believe. > >> I do and I understand. > >> Confucius (551 BC - 479 BC)." > > >> I don't know much about chinese claasic work in the english version, but > >> in chinese original work, the sentence was came form Xun Zi. As you can see > >> it belowhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xun_Zi > >> but maybe i am wrong, you know chinese classic work in chinese version are > >> really difficute to read, most of them were written about 2000 years ago, > >> the difference is quite large. for example, the ancient greek and eygpt > >> words cannot be identify by us easily as well. > > >> On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 5:28 AM, pln471 <[email protected]> wrote: > > >>> Hi Josney and all, > > >>> Are you trying to scare John and Charles away?!LOL > > >>> I've been enjoying exchanging messages with them via this message > >>> board! > >>> I really do!;) > >>> Unless others have something to complain about,then speak up,please! > >>> LOL > > >>> Since we finally got you respond to us,I would say it's Mission > >>> Accomplished in some ways! > > >>> Best wishes to you and the rest of busy,lazy or dreamy eslpodcast > >>> members!LOL > > >>> Good night, > >>> Pln > > >>> On Jun 7, 6:21 pm, Josney Ribeiro <[email protected]> wrote: > >>> > I think you guys write too much... hahaha I just don't have time to > >>> reply to > >>> > the interesting messages. I can only make short replies. I don't like > >>> it. I > >>> > wish I had time to post more thoughtful messages. Wishing you all the > >>> best, > >>> > Josney > > >>> > 2009/6/7 pln471 <[email protected]> > > >>> > > Hi John Charles and all, > > >>> > > Oh,boy,Charles!LOL > >>> > > You sound just like another curious cat to me counting how many 'LOL' > >>> > > in my previous post,aren't you?;) > > >>> > > It's just coincidental,of course! > >>> > > But after reading your mischievious message dated Saturday,June 6th,I > >>> > > recalled that there were 3 sixes in the calendar!!! > >>> > > According to Western superstition,3 sixes is a symbol of Satan or > >>> > > something like that,isn't it?!:( > >>> > > And what's interesting is that 6 is a lucky number for Chinese,isn't > >>> > > it? > > >>> > > OK.I've used 3 tag questions so far...Is it a bad sign again?!LOL > > >>> > > And John,you sound quite different from other young Chinese or > >>> > > Taiwanese I've known. > >>> > > You have more in common with me sharing the same attitude or view > >>> > > towards life,work and Europe.;) > > >>> > > Very true!In order to experience everything abroad first hand,one has > >>> > > to comprehend the local language as to interact with the locals as > >>> > > well! > >>> > > I've never travelled to any places with groups of tourists organised > >>> > > by travel agencies. > >>> > > What kind of adventures can one have if it's second-hand?! > >>> > > Doesn't anyone agree with me?;) > > >>> > > By the way,Pablo,I haven't got time to watch the talk you mentioned > >>> > > yesterday yet...:( > >>> > > I'll do it hopefully tomorrow and let you know what I think! > > >>> > > Beautiful Sunday to you three,Edward,Josney and the rest of > >>> > > unresponsive members!;) > > >>> > > Pln > > >>> > > On Jun 6, 6:49 pm, Charles <[email protected]> wrote: > >>> > > > Hi, > >>> > > > One,two,three,four,five,six.There are six "LOL" here.It must be a > >>> bad > >>> > > week > >>> > > > for you,six "LOL" in six days, > > >>> > > > On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 9:33 PM, John Awesome < > >>> [email protected] > >>> > > >wrote: > > >>> > > > > it is ok, i am 20. > >>> > > > > I think it is really necessary have a good command of native > >>> language > >>> > > if i > >>> > > > > want to find a job there. but well, i can pretend have no idea > >>> about > >>> > > dutch. > >>> > > > > i will keep the book in my mind,hehe,undutchable. > > >>> > > > > i think the best way to know people's mind and culture is > >>> learning > >>> > > their > >>> > > > > language. > > >>> > > > > well, in my opinion, old continent with old cities have a lot of > >>> fun, > >>> > > we > >>> > > > > can image we had been through the history stories. I dont think > >>> the new > >>> > > > > cities with skyscrapers attract me. I think the only reason I > >>> want to > >>> > > live a > >>> > > > > big new city is high salary. > > >>> > > > > I think young people should have some special dreams, like work > >>> in NGO, > >>> > > > > travelling around the world and ect. and work for living is a > >>> middle > >>> > > aged > >>> > > > > man's thinking. > > >>> > > > > On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 5:42 PM, pln471 <[email protected]> wrote: > > >>> > > > >> Hi John Charles and all again, > > >>> > > > >> How old are you,John?If you don't mind telling us here...;) > > >>> > > > >> Mind you that Dutch people are rather wary of foreigners who > >>> > > > >> understand their language too well!LOL > >>> > > > >> How did I know it? > >>> > > > >> Because we bought a book in a small town there and it's called > >>> "The > >>> > > > >> Undutchable"!LOL > >>> > > > >> It's a book worth reading since you're going to study there. > >>> > > > >> It's all about Dutch people's mentality and > >>> behaviours...something you > >>> > > > >> can say about their unspeakable secrets;) or some sort...LOL > > >>> > > > >> I only knew Eindhoven while passing through by train several > >>> > > > >> times,that's all! > >>> > > > >> English is very common in Western Europe as people > >>> there,especially in > >>> > > > >> Holland,Belgium,Switzerland or Luxemburg are multilingual. > > >>> > > > >> I don't think my husband will have interest in going especially > >>> to see > >>> > > > >> the music fountain in Hangzhou at night. > >>> > > > >> We are alternative travellers which means quite different from > >>> > > > >> ordinary tourists...LOL > > >>> > > > >> He'd been suffering from a terrible jet lag and without > >>> doubt,after he > >>> > > > >> got used to it,he'll have to adjust to another jet lag back > >>> home!LOL > > >>> > > > >> It's interesting that you think Europe is suitable for young > >>> people.A > >>> > > > >> lot of Taiwanese or American I know told me it's a too old > >>> continent > >>> > > > >> where everything you see is just ancient architecture or > >>> museums!LOL > > >>> > > > >> Anyhow,Great weekend again to us all! > >>> > > > >> Pln > > >>> > > > >> On Jun 5, 3:20 pm, John Awesome <[email protected]> > >>> wrote: > >>> > > > >> > yes, indeed, about a decade ago, the Communist Party want to > >>> show > >>> > > their > >>> > > > >> > kindness to Taiwanese and wish investing, make a easy visiting > >>> plan > >>> > > to > >>> > > > >> > taiwanese, but taiwan authorities still think chinese > >>> government > >>> > > will > >>> > > > >> > send communists > >>> > > > >> > to the island, so it is really bad for tourists like me. These > >>> > > things > >>> > > > >> should > >>> > > > >> > be belong to the dammed politics,. lol > >>> > > > >> > I will study in Eindhoven, it is a industrial city, where the > >>> center > >>> > > of > >>> > > > >> > philps is located, and a famous football club psv eindhoven. > > >>> > > > >> > I think europe is suit for young people, there are so many > >>> countries > >>> > > and > >>> > > > >> > places to visit and to settle. and young people are full of > >>> energy, > >>> > > can > >>> > > > >> > learn different languages easily. in this point, i think it is > >>> a > >>> > > little > >>> > > > >> bit > >>> > > > >> > difficult for old people. > > >>> > > > >> > I will study computer there, basicly focus on software. > > >>> > > > >> > Hangzhou is really hot right now, you should tell him to watch > >>> the > >>> > > music > >>> > > > >> > fountain on the west lake in the dark, it is a new site, but > >>> > > interesting > > >>> > > > >> > On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 5:40 PM, pln471 <[email protected]> > >>> wrote: > > >>> > > > >> > > Oh,yes,John! > > >>> > > > >> > > I forgot about the difficulty of your getting a visa as an > >>> > > independent > >>> > > > >> > > tourist ...You're right!:( > >>> > > > >> > > Mainland Chinese and > > ... > > read more »- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "ESL Podcast". 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