Hi Brian, Below is an extract from table F.2 of IEC 62368-1. Maybe it helps.
Best regards, Bostjan [cid:image001.png@01DBA99F.83F94FD0] From: John Woodgate <j...@woodjohn.uk> Sent: Wednesday, April 9, 2025 10:13 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Fwd: Rating Label Nomenclature CAUTION: This email originated from outside of our organisation. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognise the sender and know the content is safe. Hi, Brian. You don't say whether the product is for Europe or the Americas, or elsewhere. By the voltages, It's Europe, but it's best to be clear. In principle, the Product Standard is definitive, so what does it say? I have never seen the PE mentioned in this context, and it's best to keep the information as simple as is sufficient. I doubt that the order of the voltage and supply type statements is critical. Does the product need a neutral? If not, don't mention it; use 400V 3~ unless the Product Standard requires something different. On 2025-04-09 20:55, Brian Kunde wrote: I am reading through IEC 61293:2020 and comparing it to what some of the Product Standards say and examples on the Web regarding the Voltage Rating that would go on a Nameplate or Label. I am really struggling with 3 phase voltage ratings. Industrial machines show this information as a table, but we want to just have a single line Rating. Our equipment is not a transformer or motor driven device, but it is powered by 3-phase. Let me know if this is correct or if there is a better way. Thank you. The Other Brian Single Phase = 230V~ Three Phase (no neutral) = 400V 3~ or should it be 3~400V Three Phase with neutral = 230/400V 3/N~ or should it be 3/N~230/400V Is the PE conductor assumed or should it be included in the Rating, as in these examples? Three Phase without neutral and PE = 400V 3/PE~ or 3/PE~230/400V Three Phase with neutral and PE = 230/400V 3/N/PE~ or 3/N/PE~230/400V For a Three Phase device that uses the Neutral, do you always show the Phase Voltage in addition to the Line Voltage, or it is assumed? Does the "3~" go after the voltage or before? The IEC 61293:2020 shows it before, but I generally see it after. ________________________________ This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. 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