What is meant by “safety information on the Declaration of Conformity”? A DofC contains a list of applicable EU directives and standards. I’ve never been asked to draft a DofC for signature with “safety information” in it.
Furthermore, I have not found anything document which says that you cannot CE mark a product having a DofC listing the GPSR. The proviso that you can issue a DofC against Directive 2001/95/EC but cannot CE mark the product is not stated anywhere in the official website of the EU (Europa.eu) or in the GPSD. Perhaps it’s just well hidden. If you don’t CE mark, you’ll have trouble with a few countries in the EU. Customs people seem to look for that mark, even though it is not a formal condition of import. Ralph From: John Woodgate <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, November 1, 2023 12:01 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PSES] [EXTERNAL] [PSES] General Product Safety Directive (GPSD) Precisely. It's utter folly not to carry out, and document, appropriate safety tests. On 2023-11-01 18:35, Ted Eckert wrote: Hello Amund, The GPSR is not a CE-marking Directive, and products that fall under the GPSR can be placed on the market without safety information on the Declaration of Conformity if they do not fall under any other Directive that requires a declaration for safety. However, that is only related to what is on the Declaration of Conformity, affecting the ability to properly import a product into the EU. However, regulations on the import of products are not the only regulations affecting product safety requirements. Product liability law exists in the 27 EU member states. If you have a professional product meeting the requirements you propose, and there is some allegation of a safety issue, the customer can seek remedies from the importer, distributor, and/or manufacturer. Your ability to defend your company in court will be significantly diminished if you have no documentation showing that a safety analysis has been done. In general, all of the economic actors involved in selling products carry the responsibility of making sure the products they sell meet legal requirements. It will be up to your legal department to determine the risk of placing a product on the market without a safety evaluation. The need for producing safety documentation might not be limited only to the RED, LVD, or GPSR. Best regard, Ted Eckert The opinions expressed are my own and do not necessarily reflect those of my employer. From: Amund Westin <mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, November 1, 2023 12:41 AM To: Ted Eckert <mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected]>; [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> Subject: SV: [EXTERNAL] [PSES] General Product Safety Directive (GPSD) Thanks Ted, As I read your comments and take they into an example - … consider a professional electronic product, which can’t be bought or even used by consumers, will not under any circumstances be covered by GPSD/GPSR. Right? And if product is low powered (not within LVD), then maybe only EMC apply. Then the product could be put on the market without any safety related tests …. Is that correct? BR Amund Fra: Ted Eckert Sendt: 31. oktober 2023 16:10 Til: Amund Westin < <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected]>; <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected] Emne: RE: [EXTERNAL] [PSES] General Product Safety Directive (GPSD) Hello Amund, The GPSR has these definitions. I recommend you use them as the basis to determine if you are providing “consumer products” as covered by the scope of the GPSR. “‘product’ means any item, whether or not it is interconnected to other items, supplied or made available, whether for consideration or not, including in the context of providing a service, which is intended for consumers or is likely, under reasonably foreseeable conditions, to be used by consumers even if not intended for them”. “’consumer’ means any natural person who acts for purposes which are outside that person’s trade, bushiness, craft or profession”. There is no clear line drawn between consumer and professional equipment, and the GPSR is intended to cover professional equipment that is likely to be purchased for personal use by some consumers. Products that fall into this grey area may need to be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. I would recommend that if you determine a product is not within the scope, your technical file include a clear explanation of why it is out of scope. Best regard, Ted Eckert The opinions expressed are my own and do not necessarily reflect those of my employer. -----Original Message----- From: Amund Westin <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2023 7:54 AM To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> Subject: [EXTERNAL] [PSES] General Product Safety Directive (GPSD) General Product Safety Directive ... Do I interpret correct that GPSD only apply to consumer products? Not for any professional products? And the new General Product Safety Regulation (GPSR) do the same? BR Amund - ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. 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