Hi Amund, Apart from EMC, RoHS is likely to apply as well.
If the product is out of scope of the LVD, that just means that you are out of the harmonized area but will still be in scope of the national safety regulations. In the end, your product will have to meet the corresponding product safety standards anyway. Andreas Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Best regards Andreas Graevinghoff XC-HWP/PJ-ESR Tel. +49 711 811-22343 | Mobile +49 174 6929311 From: Amund Westin <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, November 1, 2023 08:41 To: [email protected] Subject: [PSES] SV: [EXTERNAL] [PSES] General Product Safety Directive (GPSD) Thanks Ted, As I read your comments and take they into an example - … consider a professional electronic product, which can’t be bought or even used by consumers, will not under any circumstances be covered by GPSD/GPSR. Right? And if product is low powered (not within LVD), then maybe only EMC apply. Then the product could be put on the market without any safety related tests …. Is that correct? BR Amund Fra: Ted Eckert Sendt: 31. oktober 2023 16:10 Til: Amund Westin <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>; [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Emne: RE: [EXTERNAL] [PSES] General Product Safety Directive (GPSD) Hello Amund, The GPSR has these definitions. I recommend you use them as the basis to determine if you are providing “consumer products” as covered by the scope of the GPSR. “‘product’ means any item, whether or not it is interconnected to other items, supplied or made available, whether for consideration or not, including in the context of providing a service, which is intended for consumers or is likely, under reasonably foreseeable conditions, to be used by consumers even if not intended for them”. “’consumer’ means any natural person who acts for purposes which are outside that person’s trade, bushiness, craft or profession”. There is no clear line drawn between consumer and professional equipment, and the GPSR is intended to cover professional equipment that is likely to be purchased for personal use by some consumers. Products that fall into this grey area may need to be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. I would recommend that if you determine a product is not within the scope, your technical file include a clear explanation of why it is out of scope. Best regard, Ted Eckert The opinions expressed are my own and do not necessarily reflect those of my employer. -----Original Message----- From: Amund Westin <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2023 7:54 AM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: [EXTERNAL] [PSES] General Product Safety Directive (GPSD) General Product Safety Directive ... Do I interpret correct that GPSD only apply to consumer products? Not for any professional products? And the new General Product Safety Regulation (GPSR) do the same? BR Amund - ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Femc-pstc%40listserv.ieee.org%2F&data=05%7C01%7Cted.eckert%40microsoft.com%7C82a5efa6086f42d6b47408dbda213cd3%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C638343608539495156%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=GuUoKfcLXvrJyMAlwC4ppBfGXqIA3K0rhanBtbC1XF4%3D&reserved=0<https://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/> Website: https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fewh.ieee.org%2Fsoc%2Fpses%2F&data=05%7C01%7Cted.eckert%40microsoft.com%7C82a5efa6086f42d6b47408dbda213cd3%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C638343608539504370%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=M0KYrWP9A3foeuyjUE75DvRaVQURs4wWLqPTD%2FdbU4Q%3D&reserved=0<https://ewh.ieee.org/soc/pses/> Instructions: https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fewh.ieee.org%2Fsoc%2Fpses%2Flist.html&data=05%7C01%7Cted.eckert%40microsoft.com%7C82a5efa6086f42d6b47408dbda213cd3%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C638343608539509465%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=ofGeD6XXKUVk7Hj4M9x2EGO9W1T%2FiDiuGRIDaRUidBg%3D&reserved=0<https://ewh.ieee.org/soc/pses/list.html> (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fewh.ieee.org%2Fsoc%2Fpses%2Flistrules.html&data=05%7C01%7Cted.eckert%40microsoft.com%7C82a5efa6086f42d6b47408dbda213cd3%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C638343608539514405%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=qJHd1uu7%2BtudUEOSck1GfiFZe23f4WUQPhqjhpKP2%2Fk%3D&reserved=0<https://ewh.ieee.org/soc/pses/listrules.html> For help, send mail to the list administrators: Mike Sherman at: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Rick Linford at: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> _________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the EMC-PSTC list, click the following link: https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flistserv.ieee.org%2Fcgi-bin%2Fwa%3FSUBED1%3DEMC-PSTC%26A%3D1&data=05%7C01%7Cted.eckert%40microsoft.com%7C82a5efa6086f42d6b47408dbda213cd3%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C638343608539519315%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=KmMwZ64oW%2Bj8BtjkntPME3x5TMw%2BMhvuERUcVRMmC2w%3D&reserved=0<https://listserv.ieee.org/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=EMC-PSTC&A=1> ________________________________ This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: https://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Website: https://ewh.ieee.org/soc/pses/ Instructions: https://ewh.ieee.org/soc/pses/list.html (including how to unsubscribe)<https://ewh.ieee.org/soc/pses/list.html> List rules: https://ewh.ieee.org/soc/pses/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Mike Sherman at: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Rick Linford at: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher at: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the EMC-PSTC list, click the following link: https://listserv.ieee.org/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=EMC-PSTC&A=1 - ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to <[email protected]> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: https://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Website: https://ewh.ieee.org/soc/pses/ Instructions: https://ewh.ieee.org/soc/pses/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: https://ewh.ieee.org/soc/pses/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Mike Sherman at: [email protected] Rick Linford at: [email protected] For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: <[email protected]> _________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the EMC-PSTC list, click the following link: https://listserv.ieee.org/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=EMC-PSTC&A=1
