Re: [PSES] CE Test Report for UK Compliance?

[CATHERINE PEARSON]

Hi Peter,
I totally agree, this is the approach that we taking.
I believe for products that are covered by a self declaration, its still 
fairly unchanged.
A suitable test report from a lab should be acceptable regardless of the 
country etc.
For myself its medical products, you have the MDD / MDR change and 
that's still being worked on and is late !

But its still fairly straight forward if you embraced the change.

Regards Darren.


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From: "Peter J. Knight" <peter.kni...@grain.at>
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Sent: Monday, 21 Jun, 21 At 09:21
Subject: Re: [PSES] CE Test Report for UK Compliance?

Hi Darren,

Further to Charlie’s comments, here is an additional angle:

Corresponding to the EU’s citation of harmonised standards in the 
Official Journal of the EU (OJEU) that give a presumption of conformity, 
the UK now maintains a comparable list of “Designated Standards” that 
can be reached from here 
<https://www.gov.uk/guidance/designated-standards> .

You will find that for each discipline (EMC, electrical safety etc) the 
lists of designated standards are pretty much identical to the 
harmonised standards published in the OJEU.
So a test reports to such shared standards give a presumption of 
conformity for both EU and UK markets. If the lists diverge in the 
future, then in affected cases this commonality may no longer hold.

Best regards,

Peter


From: Charlie Blackham <char...@sulisconsultants.com>
Sent: 19 June 2021 20:48
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Subject: Re: [PSES] CE Test Report for UK Compliance?


Darren

The “Conformity Assessment Body” is the Notified Body (EU) of Competent 
Body (UK)

This advice isn’t as clearly written as it could be – that last sentence 
has nothing to do with product testing or test labs

Best regards
Charlie

Charlie Blackham
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Subject: Re: [PSES] CE Test Report for UK Compliance?


Hi Charles
Can you explain your last sentence, “ the conformity assessment bodies 
that test them need to be different”



From my understanding a test lab can test to mutiple country standards 
and results used,  ssuming its self declaration .


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On 19 Jun 2021, at 12:44, Charlie Blackham <char...@sulisconsultants.com 
<mailto:char...@sulisconsultants.com> > wrote:


Andy

some folks are asking for a UK test report

Some folks are confused then 😊
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/placing-manufactured-goods-on-the-market-in-great-britain 
<https://www.gov.uk/guidance/placing-manufactured-goods-on-the-market-in-great-britain>

Using both the CE and UKCA marking
Both the CE and UKCA mark can be placed on a product so long as neither 
impedes the visibility of the other and requirements of both the GB and 
EU legislation are met.
The essential requirements and standards that can be used to demonstrate 
conformity with them for UKCA marked goods have not changed. That means 
that if your good is currently made to the technical requirements 
necessary for CE marking then it will be made to the same technical 
requirements that exist for UKCA marking. However, the conformity 
assessment bodies that test them may need to be different.
Best regards
Charlie

Charlie Blackham
Sulis Consultants Ltd
Tel: +44 (0)7946 624317
Web: https://sulisconsultants.com/ <https://sulisconsultants.com/>
Registered in England and Wales, number 05466247

From: worldwideemc <worldwide...@gmail.com 
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Sent: 18 June 2021 19:57
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Subject: Re: [PSES] CE Test Report for UK Compliance?


Hi Darren,



Thank you for the information. It makes sense that the CE report should 
be sufficient but some folks are asking for a UK test report. I believe 
I'm not the only one confused on this topic.



BR,

Andy



On Fri, Jun 18, 2021 at 11:38 AM Darren @ Vitesses 
<vites...@btinternet.com <mailto:vites...@btinternet.com> > wrote:

Hi Andy


Yes

If the reports show you meet the relevant standards that would be fine

But also many international standards are the same, eg the Aus/NZS 
standard has a different name but the set up and limits are identical.

So a report to thoes standards would support a claim of compliance to 
the en standards regardless of the country.



I would recommend drawing up a document explaining the reasoning behind 
it.



Regards Darren
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On 18 Jun 2021, at 18:28, worldwideemc <worldwide...@gmail.com 
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Hello All,



Can I use my European EMC test report to claim compliance to UK 
regulations? I understand I need to generate a UKCA DoC and apply the 
UKCA marking.



The UK designated standards list at the link below lists EN standards 
without any reference to a British Standard...



https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/942100/ds-0007-21-emc-notice.pdf 
<https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/942100/ds-0007-21-emc-notice.pdf> 
.



Any input from the list experts would be appreciated!

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BR,
Andy Parker

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