Hi Darren,
Further to Charlie’s comments, here is an additional angle: Corresponding to the EU’s citation of harmonised standards in the Official Journal of the EU (OJEU) that give a presumption of conformity, the UK now maintains a comparable list of “Designated Standards” that can be reached from here <https://www.gov.uk/guidance/designated-standards> . You will find that for each discipline (EMC, electrical safety etc) the lists of designated standards are pretty much identical to the harmonised standards published in the OJEU. So a test reports to such shared standards give a presumption of conformity for both EU and UK markets. If the lists diverge in the future, then in affected cases this commonality may no longer hold. Best regards, Peter From: Charlie Blackham <[email protected]> Sent: 19 June 2021 20:48 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PSES] CE Test Report for UK Compliance? Darren The “Conformity Assessment Body” is the Notified Body (EU) of Competent Body (UK) This advice isn’t as clearly written as it could be – that last sentence has nothing to do with product testing or test labs Best regards Charlie Charlie Blackham Sulis Consultants Ltd Tel: +44 (0)7946 624317 Web: https://sulisconsultants.com/ Registered in England and Wales, number 05466247 From: Darren @ Vitesses <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > Sent: 19 June 2021 13:20 To: Charlie Blackham <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > Cc: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: [PSES] CE Test Report for UK Compliance? Hi Charles Can you explain your last sentence, “ the conformity assessment bodies that test them need to be different” >From my understanding a test lab can test to mutiple country standards and >results used, ssuming its self declaration . Sent from my iPhone On 19 Jun 2021, at 12:44, Charlie Blackham <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: Andy > some folks are asking for a UK test report Some folks are confused then 😊 https://www.gov.uk/guidance/placing-manufactured-goods-on-the-market-in-great-britain Using both the CE and UKCA marking Both the CE and UKCA mark can be placed on a product so long as neither impedes the visibility of the other and requirements of both the GB and EU legislation are met. The essential requirements and standards that can be used to demonstrate conformity with them for UKCA marked goods have not changed. That means that if your good is currently made to the technical requirements necessary for CE marking then it will be made to the same technical requirements that exist for UKCA marking. However, the conformity assessment bodies that test them may need to be different. Best regards Charlie Charlie Blackham Sulis Consultants Ltd Tel: +44 (0)7946 624317 Web: https://sulisconsultants.com/ Registered in England and Wales, number 05466247 From: worldwideemc <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > Sent: 18 June 2021 19:57 To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: [PSES] CE Test Report for UK Compliance? Hi Darren, Thank you for the information. It makes sense that the CE report should be sufficient but some folks are asking for a UK test report. I believe I'm not the only one confused on this topic. BR, Andy On Fri, Jun 18, 2021 at 11:38 AM Darren @ Vitesses <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: Hi Andy Yes If the reports show you meet the relevant standards that would be fine But also many international standards are the same, eg the Aus/NZS standard has a different name but the set up and limits are identical. So a report to thoes standards would support a claim of compliance to the en standards regardless of the country. I would recommend drawing up a document explaining the reasoning behind it. Regards Darren Sent from my iPhone On 18 Jun 2021, at 18:28, worldwideemc <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: Hello All, Can I use my European EMC test report to claim compliance to UK regulations? I understand I need to generate a UKCA DoC and apply the UKCA marking. The UK designated standards list at the link below lists EN standards without any reference to a British Standard... https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/942100/ds-0007-21-emc-notice.pdf. Any input from the list experts would be appreciated! -- BR, Andy Parker - ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. 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