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From: Rick NK7I via Elecraft <[email protected]>
Date: Wed, Sep 3, 2025 at 1:47 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Effective ways to introduce amateur radio to
newcomers?
To: David Gilbert <[email protected]>
Cc: <[email protected]>


Within.

73,
Rick nk7i

> On Sep 3, 2025, at 12:54 PM, David Gilbert via Elecraft <
[email protected]> wrote:
>
> 
> Two questions and a comment:
>
> 1.  "Don't ignore the shut in or (very) tiny budget crowds ... etc"
 Which of those things you mention aren't more easily possible via voice,
texting, or forum participation on their cellphones?

How much does a cell phone cost, compared to a (used) HT?  Cell fails here
at least annually (the fiber line gets cut, no feed).  How many times can
you talk with a group at the same moment, on a cell phone?  These days, you
can message on either HT or cell.

> 2.  "I've tried to generate interest ... etc"     Did you ever actually
ask anyone what changes/additions would make ham radio more interesting to
them?

Of course.  Other than checking into the weekly net on the local repeater,
they knew that they knew nothing and didn’t care to learn (even basic
simple antennas that would improve their stations to get into the
repeater).  It took MONTHS of effort, all to zero avail.  I also raised
simple dipoles and help sets up stations; which simply got ignored when the
shine wore off.

> 3.  NOBODY ever wants to discuss what might be added to ham radio to make
it more appealing to outsiders.  Not a single suggestion from anybody here
has popped up in this lengthy thread ... which likely hardly anyone even
wants to follow anymore.  The few comments that have been posted mostly say
that everything is just fine the way it is.

It is NOT fine, the numbers don’t tell the entire story since most
licensees, don’t operate or stop after a few months or years.  Mostly
because there is no follow through after the test; individuals and clubs
just walk away (HUGE mistake).  Without watering, the root dies.

Followthrough (I am a VE, I offer myself there) is critical.

I tell them that I started out with borrowed receivers and a 5th hand
transmitter on HF, with mostly useless wire antennas (I was ignorant too)
then worked my way up.  It does NOT have to cost the tens of thousands of
my present station; I kept interest and built it up over decades.  Ease
THAT fear ASAP with a noob; money is TIGHT for most.

Adding features?  What does NOT appear under the umbrella of ham radio?
Music, games and broadcast; EVERY other means of communication are already
being used, in ham radio.

While it CAN be as mostly technical as the noob can manage (and rabbit
holes to fall into); there are plenty of ‘appliance operators’ too (just
listen to the bands, to spend 20 minutes and a LOT of words, to say
nothing; then it’s the other folks turns).  Ask them about technical
details of their station; brand and model is about all they know (can we
say ‘stagnation’?).

Growth can occur, IF they find the right niche and want to keep learning
(THAT is an ugly word to some when simplistic ignorance is so appealing).

The only two topics to not discuss (by agreement, not law):  Politics and
religion (both can be easily devisive in moments; not helpful in building
new bonds of friendship).  That leaves  BROAD range of topics, technical or
not; dog raising, baking or multi-element arrays.

And THAT means, being an Elmer (mentor) to the noob and meeting them at
their level while sharing the excitement of where you are in radio.  I’ve
turned no one away and try to meet their level of understanding.  Give them
the answers they seek, with a little more to spark interest; let them into
what you’re doing too.

It is about relationships, nothing more.

That mirror looks good here.

> We don't have to look far to find the source of the problem.  A mirror
would do the job.
>
> Dave  AB7E
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